| Foolish Lizardmen; "The Emergence of Sotek" p53 of Lustria | |
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| Sebrent | 21st January 2007 - 04:31 PM Post #1 |
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I had some time to kill so I was flipping through the Lustria armybook and came upon a paragraph on page 53 with a part that says:
For those unfamiliar with the Lustria armybook, this is referring to when the Lizardmen god of the skinks, Sotek, emerged and a great battle was raged between the Lizardmen (in particular the red crested skinks) and Clan Pestilence. Because of this, I was highly amused as it says they thought they would "wipe the rat spawn from the face of the world" but they would have merely wiped a single clan of Skaven; one of several clans; all easily replaced. Gotta love having an Underempire that no one knows about unless their lives are already doomed to slavery/death. |
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| Morkskittar | 21st January 2007 - 04:45 PM Post #2 |
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That book made me laugh. That part in particular. That war was so biased. we were completely owning the Lizzies until they cheated and summoned one of their stupid gods down... WE never invoked the Horned Rat. I mean, we were so much smarter and stronger... then they cheat. It's all biased to the Lizardmen...Pillz |
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| Lord Lughtigern | 21st January 2007 - 05:37 PM Post #3 |
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We won in long terms - they're ruined, and after all this time still haven't made it back to past glories, where we've far surpassed the abilities and numbers we had back then. If we fought again, we'd pwn them so bad... |
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| Chieftain Cazgar | 21st January 2007 - 05:46 PM Post #4 |
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as has been said, lizardmen are all about doing stuff for people that are long gone. their heads are in the past. we, my brethren, are the future! lizardmen are like dinosaurs, they all got wiped out in one go. skaven are like rats, set up to be the dominant race when humans die out. hmm, i wonder which is better lol. i mean, if we really wanted we could send clan pestilence back there with their strength renewed along with a couple ally clans and wipe the scaley-things from the face of lustria. it really would be that easy. thing is, they arn't actually much of a threat at all so we don't bother (if i made up a load of stuff above, i don't care. skaven > lizardmen was the message lol) |
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| chieftainskritchskritch | 22nd January 2007 - 02:06 AM Post #5 |
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Actually, I remember reading something somewhere a while ago that we DID try to summon the Horned One. We sacrificed a whole bunch of slaves, skink captives and warpstone to get him to help us, but the ritual got stopped by the stupid lizardmen before it came to completion. All we managed to create was a huge noxious gas with evil red eyes. Funnily enough though, that sentient cloud alone wiped out hundreds of lizardmen by itself, but the birth of sotek destroyed it. |
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| Grey Seer Starr | 22nd January 2007 - 11:21 AM Post #6 |
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Little do the Lizzies know that we are all over the world, They could never destroy us all. Even if a lot of us are killed, we come back with more. They are the dying race, and our reproduction is still going strong greets GSS |
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| Clanlord Trask | 22nd January 2007 - 11:23 AM Post #7 |
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so we tried to invoke the Horned Rat, and the Lizzies stopped us? But then, in a fit of original thinking, the Lizzies summoned Sotek? Get an original idea, you scaly copycats! |
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| Skaskrit Venomclaw | 22nd January 2007 - 12:40 PM Post #8 |
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Never heard about that particular story. But going off on a minor tangent, what races in the warhammer world are actually growing in power? The Elves, of whatever kind, definitely not. All of them are fading because they breed so slow and fight too much. Same for the Dwarfs. Lizardmen, as stated, are a shadow of their former glory. The strong old slan die one by one, and that's it for them. They lack proper guidance and initiative anyway. Orcs and Goblins, stationary. They're much the same now as they were 5000 years ago. They'll always be a nuisance, they'll never be a threat. I think the same goes for the Ogres, though I never read their background. Bretonnia is strong enough, but backwards looking. It lacks technology and doesn't make good use of its populace. Not a threat in the grand scheme of things. Tilea and Estalia are too divided to be dangerous. Border Princes are too weak. The Empire is strong. It favours innovation, has strong central leadership, has the practice of magic institutionalised, the humans breed fast and are skilled warriors. A definite threat to the Underempire, but all in all they're much smaller than us. They cannot possibly muster the resources the Skaven can. Still, they're stronger now than they were a few centuries ago. The eastern realms like Cathay and Ind we know too little of. But without Dwarfs to guide them, they'll be technologically inferior to the Empire. If real-world parallel applies, they'll also be opposed to innovation and inward looking. Possibly very numerous, though. The Undead are dangerous by themselves, but they are not and will never be a unified threat. The Tomb Kings squat in their lousy desert, the Vampires are all divided and all strive for different purposes. Only Nagash could pose a threat, and we all know how things ended the last time he went up against the Council of Thirteen. He's weaker now, we're stronger. Not a threat. Whom does all of that leave? Chaos, of course. It's bloody unfortunate that Chaos will most likely devour the world, because if not for that the Skaven will be set for proper world domination. In the long run, none of the others can compete, save possibly the Empire if allowed to grow too long. Still, maybe after all's said and done Chaos will prove self-destructive. This is quite possible. Demons are made from the dreams and fears of Men and Elves and Dwarfs. After they have killed all of those, will they retain their power? Or will they fade like a bad smell with no mortals to sustain them? There's their mortal followers of course, the tribes, the beastmen and the chaos warriors, but without a common enemy those will fall upon one another. The perfect opportunity for a massed strike in the back? If we can survive the coming apocalypse of Chaos, of course. But we will. It has been prophecied. The world we be destroyed, and we will survive under the ruins. We will take it from the Chaos victors, and the children of the Horned Rat will inherit the earth! |
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| FatherSquee | 22nd January 2007 - 03:13 PM Post #9 |
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So what your saying is allwe need is someone like say, um...Archon to distabalize man, then Chaos will take over in some sorta storm and given time they will destabilize themselves to the point where we would be able to Inherit? *Looks over at Sneaky* :mellow: Mutate: Just outa curiosity I wonder how many people will actually get that little joke?
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| Mormeguil | 22nd January 2007 - 03:46 PM Post #10 |
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I read a lot about the ogre ( ilove theyr fluff) and they are not in decline. Theyre population is growing and they are probably soon to another great migration. THe thing is they can't live underground so they are not a real threat to skaven. They also are getting a big leader that makes them more then a bunch of hungry bandits. I think the races that are gaining in power is man from the empire, probably man from cathay, skaven (well we are getting more numerous but still not an incredible treat because they fight too much), goblin are always the same, you wipe them they get back, after that you have oggre that are gaining in power. For the other races you only have to wait. Tomb king have a limited number of skeleton minions (an extremely large number but still limited), vampire count can always be a treat but they don't like to create too many vampire so the race can never govern the world in itself. Slaan are dying (killed a second generation one this weeked , the player wasn't soo good but i was in trouble if he did'n make such a big mistake) and bretonnia doesnt want to evolve.All in all as Skarskrit said pretty much everyone is doomed except for Vampire count, empire, ogre and skaven. |
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| Sebrent | 23rd January 2007 - 12:01 AM Post #11 |
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I had read in either the Lizardmen or the Lustria book that the collapse of the gates at the poles (the coming of chaos) was prophesied and that part of that same prophecy was that it would be wiped from the world in the end. |
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| cole | 27th January 2007 - 10:33 PM Post #12 |
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Lizardmen could never beat the master race in a fair fight... as long as the "fair" fight pitted a dozen clannies for every saurus warrior... |
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That part in particular. That war was so biased. we were completely owning the Lizzies until they cheated and summoned one of their stupid gods down... WE never invoked the Horned Rat. I mean, we were so much smarter and stronger... then they cheat. It's all biased to the Lizardmen...









