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| SneakyRodent | 13th March 2006 - 08:41 AM Post #1 |
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To All Members of the UnderEmpire.. The following is an observation made by the Council of Thirteen on the standard of recent posting. It cannot have escaped your attention that there has been a sharp increase in the number of spam and antagonistic posts. This has been evident in a majority of forums, not just Off Topic. The Council have tried subtle and friendly warnings but to no avail. So now we are spelling it out. Any member who posts inflammatory or pointless comments will find their accounts suspended/posts queued for Moderator approval. The UnderEmpire is a hugely popular site and has gone from strength to strength thanks to the knowledge and character brought to it by its members. Unfortunately, some people now seem to treat this site as their own playground, posting at whim and rapidly diluting the high quality of existing threads/topics. If you think that this is just the Council's view, you would be mistaken. Other members have been commenting on it too, and to my knowledge we have lost at least one valued rat for this very reason. Keep off topic subjects to that particular forum. But even in there, do not clutter up subjects with meaningless, spammy contributions such as 'I agree!' or 'That sucks'. And please, no swearing. So to all genuine UnderEmpire members we make this request. Think before you post. Because the Council WILL act to keep this site the success it has been, make no mistake. |
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| Nilax | 13th March 2006 - 09:22 AM Post #2 |
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I've seen a bit, but I can't say enough to complain about. A lot of what I'd call vacuous or confrontational is all in good humor. Not to mention that much of it can be attributed to the age of the posters, even though we have many people on this site who are mature beyond their years.
To be honest, I can't think of anything that serious. Part of being too concerned over things like this is becomming too involved in them (For example, getting into an antagonistic exchange rather than not taking the bait.) Personally, I try to stick to topics that are worthwhile and give worthwile contribution, and I find I get out of it what I put in.
Well that is all very reasonable: And it seems like you guys have been doing a great job at keeping the place running successfully. I'd just like to say, that one of my favorite things about the UE besides the people here is the atmosphere. Too many boards suffer from authoritative control, even if it's done with good intentions. It turns me off, and it turns a lot of people away if it looks like moderators are being too involved with their powers. It's something to be concerned with, the sliding scale of how much is needed to keep things running smoothly and how much is too much and actually hurts the flair of the community. I think you guys strike a good balance. |
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| Bassik Dwarveripper | 13th March 2006 - 09:28 AM Post #3 |
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Well.. too be honest, I also find the spam outside offtopic increase. I refrained from doing it myself to keep the balance(the nice spamguy I am) but if its still too much in off-topic, just say so. MUTATE: A message from beyond! Skavenguy speaks: "So the mods finally did it. I'm very glad they did, but hope they won't be too harsh. to me, a good post is either funny, constructive, or both. And constructive includes at least one of the following: - a clarification about something - asking a question/asking for help for a problem - giving said answer or solution - asking for opinions about something (like painting) - posting a fact (like rumors) - give your opinion about the fact/painting, BUT GIVE A REASON WHY! - more can be added here, but I can't think of anything right now Lately, most of the posts I've seen didn't include any of those. Since I left, I still look at few forums and can say Off-topic became the less spammy place, except for the pub fight. And the pub fight is nice because it's the place to spam. Yes, there is "good spam", we had lots of that before. But not anymore. At least now if there will be spam, it will be nicer. Now this is the major reason I left because it influenced many other reasons. Some of those other reasons include some people I began to "don't particularly appreciate", mainly because of their posts. And this is a major kick in the ass for those people, I hope you realize that. I don't worry much about that decision, except it has the possibilty of becoming too strict. For the people on that list, don't worry: there's 12 mods, of which many come everyday. So your good posts won't take 2 weeks to be seen. So it is a great step towards my return, I'll see how things will turn out from my guest position." |
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| brownmccoy | 13th March 2006 - 04:43 PM Post #4 |
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okay, just out of curiosity, would you cinsider my recent posting 'style' useless spamming? If so, I will start to refrain my posting (except in pub fight...) And I too have noticed a large increase in the amount of spam (this is coming from the person who often has the most amount of posts per day) |
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| Bassik Dwarveripper | 13th March 2006 - 06:18 PM Post #5 |
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My own toughts: The Underempire means to me, and a lot of people, more then just a forum where to ask questions and give answers about a certain hobby. Its a place where I found friends, companions, and even a partner. People act as if they where around friends. because they are. And thats where the spamming comes from. Face it, if this was the perfect Q&A place without the regulair spammers, it would have died a long time ago. |
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| acolite | 13th March 2006 - 06:48 PM Post #6 |
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UE - Online dating agency? well... there is a market! Now I said that on purpose. This would be considered spam, right? I just want to find out what your perimeters are. But Bas does have a point, we are very much a family forum! everyone is accepted and loved, just look at all the leaving threads, they reach so many posts! And every family has banter. But that does not mean I condone spamming and flameing, as family banter is always well meaning in the end, and never purposefully agressive for no reason. |
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| Skittin Warpchoker | 13th March 2006 - 06:59 PM Post #7 |
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couldn't have said it better bas.... this is a place i call home.... and as i sometimes have the tendency to say something completely off, i do the same here.... the quality of my posts recently wasn't the greatest, and i apoligize to everyone who found that disturbing/annoying and anything else you can think of..... i'll try n control my urge to spam....
yeah.. sortof.... brilliant no?? |
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| Slitkit | 14th March 2006 - 12:48 AM Post #8 |
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Before I post anything, outside of offtopic and squeek paw, I ask myself am I really giving something new to the topic. There was a time when I was active on one general GW related forum online at the busiest hour and had most of the rulesbooks, WDs etc. at my disposal (living with my brother and was just going to study). Whenever new question came up in the forum I could reply and was very active. Then I moved away and was still reading through topics but I couldn't add anything due to not being among the first to react ![]() First it felt strange to change from several posts per day to maybe once a month but I got used to it. And the post count thingy... heheh well it might have mattered at the start but now I know it means nothing. Or maybe it tells something when I recognise someone that's been on a forum long time and I remember her/him giving good advice, comments and opinions but still have a stormvermin running under the name ![]() After reading the message of Skavenguy recently I realised I had also felt something different at the UE. I've been going through long depression period this winter (drugs don't help, seeing doctor on wednesday, yay) so I thought it was because of that. If I felt better I propably never noticed it but... to the point. When going outside OT and SP I expect I don't run into trashposts. Few here and there doesn't harm anyone but when that spam starts to take the majority it's sometimes hard to keep enough interest to go through all the topics. I read OT too but I know what to expect. When I'm tired or just mentally drained these things matter a lot. The one general gw forum I told about earlier I've discarded completely. It grew too big in size and population and when the topic titles (many times being nonsense) no more told what the question etc. was about I couldn't pick and read what could have been interesting topic. UE has grown very much and our population and society works very well. The holders of power are doing a good job and generally everything works. This is place to relax for me and many of us so I've learned and I hope it remains as is. The only problem I see really is the spread of spamminess to places where it doesn't belong. I agree that it might be because we have a friendly atmosphere. I got an idea tonight that certain members take some speed from OT area and can't brake before they hit more rules-rich areas ![]() I may have sounded too serious I feel but I don't want to sound too grim. I predict the Council announcement has some effect and spam doesn't fill the tunnels and we live stabbily ever after :ph43r: |
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| Mutator | 14th March 2006 - 09:48 AM Post #9 |
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I disagree. I think the UE would have continued to grow, and remained the most excellent and premiere skaven message board in the english-speaking world. But it would have been different. It wouldnt be the same UE. Personally I agree that there has been waaay to much spam. Enough that it has made me either (i) trawl through the useless discussion in search of something useful (be it questions or answers), (ii) largely ignore the place because it took anything from 10-100 posts to find something of value, depending upon the topic and subforum, or (iii) just screen posts for those names I considered liable to produce something worth reading. What I would like to see is a forum where every post by every member is worth reading. Sure, that aint gonna happen overnight, and some of my own posts are likely to fall short of my own standards too, but if everyone was to think before they post that "I'd like people to be able to read this and remember it, even if they were not the member I was replying to or directing this post to" then everything would be so much better. Humour is fine. Friendliness is fine. Joking and ribbing other members is fine. Largely useless comments are even alright. But please, please, ensure there is something of substance in the post too. Spend the time to contribute something positive to the topic, even if all you originally wished to do was comment on a previous posters witty remark. It is called "giving something back", and it makes the forum even better. We've got a very good mod team. I'd like to challenge all other members to match their standard. |
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| Sammy the Squid | 19th March 2006 - 10:02 AM Post #10 |
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I was finding that not long ago, and I was quite innactive because I couldnt be bothered spending a large amount of time finding something I could reply to... The amount of spam has been increasing too much for my liking, and after the recent pub fight Im glad the Council have stepped up and issued this warning. The UE should definately remain a friendly place as ever it was, but the meaningless spam just made posting difficult... Keep up the good work - Sammy |
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| General Vorg | 8th April 2006 - 03:41 PM Post #11 |
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Dont worrry, ill keep my spam in the off-topic ![]() squeeks |
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| Kill-Kill | 14th April 2006 - 09:30 PM Post #12 |
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IMO that is a little over the top. In moderation it never hurt anyone. I "think" I am still the youngest here, and I have no problem with a bit of swearing. Of course some are way out of line, but not all. |
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| Warlock Ikvolt | 27th October 2007 - 08:23 AM Post #13 |
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I know I am new here and well this forum is the first one i have actully ever joined so I am a little bit out of the loop as it comes to forum lingo (like spamming) and sometimes it's nice when a mod taps you nicely on the shoulder and leads you in the correct dierection by telling you all the rules, like this post right here. I know I don't read every single post on the forums and don't comment much, but when i do i usually find two or three threads to jump on to throw in my two cents worth. I don't mean to spam or anything, it's jsut some of the threads are nice to try and get to know how others play/ paint and do in their spare time sometimes. I know there has been once where i multi-posted, as it was in the one forum for three differnt things, but I didn't realise this was somehow spamming so I appologise for it ( i don't know if it is as i said before I don't really know what spamming is as far as mulitposting) and if i rember i want to add something to a previous statement I mutate my thread so i don't keep posting constantly one the one topic for multipul trains of thought so others can say something else.this is a lovely forum and i can't wait to see where it goes in future, but I hope it is something that become glorious and make this community alot more of a great place. |
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| Bodacious | 27th October 2007 - 11:25 AM Post #14 |
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Don't worry about it too much Ikvolt. This notice was posted a long time ago by now and posting quality standard has long been increasing since then "Spamming" is actually one of the most basic things in forum lingo, so we apologize for not exlaining these sort of things because their such basic expressions for us moderators .The term is actually meant to describe any form of message (be it e-mail or forum topics/posts) that are totally unimportant to the audience in quesiton. If someone were to reply to this thread for instance with a post saying nothing but
That post would contribute nothing to the thread and would be of no use to anyone who reads it (not to mention highly anoying <_< ), so it would be called spam. It's ok to post a joke or a funny comment every once in a while, but we generally assume that people would know for themselves how far they can go with stuff like that and that not everyone in the forum always shares the same sense of humor. Double posting is something we try to prevent because this forum uses post-counts to determine if people get the right to vote in polls and have a custom member title and other such things. It would be unfair if people who make a lot of short posts in a row achieve a higher rank faster than people who take the time to make a single well-constructed and usefull post. Double posting is only allowed if there has been a large ammount of time between them (like an army diary update), but otherwise they will be merged together by a moderator. Hope this clears some things up a bit, because frankly, this topic has been a sticky for a long time and the council kind of forgot to take it down. Hopefully we'll get some more member guides finished soon and posting guidelines like this will become a lot clearer .Cheers, Bodacious. |
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( i don't know if it is as i said before I don't really know what spamming is as far as mulitposting) and if i rember i want to add something to a previous statement I mutate my thread so i don't keep posting constantly one the one topic for multipul trains of thought so others can say something else.
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