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Topic Started: 4th October 2005 - 10:33 AM (259 Views)
Sammy the Squid
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Firstly can some one tell me what is the deal with empire crossbowmen? I mean they are the same points as handgunners, and they are heaps worse in the rules!!! They seem pointless! Can someone tell me why and am i missing anything obvious??

Secondly, can anyone direct me to an empire forum please??

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Skaskrit Venomclaw
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Uh... the crossbowmen have better range. They'll shoot more often, and hit easier if the enemy is 12-15" away. Except the handguns get a range boost on turn 1, largely negating this advantage...

Uh. They are more characterful for certain parts of the empire?

Anyway for your second question: the only good Empire site I know is Warhammer Empire.com Reasonably large, with 2000+ users. You could've found it in the links section, under "other warhammer fora."
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Sammy the Squid
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Uh... the crossbowmen have better range. They'll shoot more often, and hit easier if the enemy is 12-15" away. Except the handguns get a range boost on turn 1, largely negating this advantage...


better range? I thought they both had 24"... dont handgunners hit easier if the enemy are close too?

Thanks for the link! :)

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Skaven Clan Rattenkrieg - 108/58/20
Dark Elves - 44/14/8
Hochland Empire - 33/14/4
Malkavian Vampires - 23/22/4
Beastmen - 50/25/2

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Skaskrit Venomclaw
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Heh, no. Crossbows have 30" range. And those shoddy, copycat, good-for-nothing Empire so-called "handguns" most definitely do not get a hit bonus at close range. Nor can they move and fire. That's for proper Dwarf Handguns only.
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better range? I thought they both had 24"... dont handgunners hit easier if the enemy are close too?


crossbows have 30" range, and dwarf hand guns have a hit modefier when the target is in close range, they can also move and shoot. Empire handguns are 24" and get an extra d6 range when they first fire. They dont have the hit modefier as well.

it's a choisew between the extra -1 to the armour save or the extra round of shooting.
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Sammy the Squid
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huh well i guess im used to repeater crossbows range... and Ive always used crossbows as 24" range... Well thanks alot for clearing that up for me :)

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Wins/Losses/Draws

Skaven Clan Rattenkrieg - 108/58/20
Dark Elves - 44/14/8
Hochland Empire - 33/14/4
Malkavian Vampires - 23/22/4
Beastmen - 50/25/2

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