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can a master assasin kill archaeon in combat?
Topic Started: 23rd August 2005 - 03:29 PM (565 Views)
butlip
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well me and one of my mates had just finished a game and he started saying how great archie was, so i bet him him a fiver that my master assasin could kill him in our next match on sunday.

so is there any chance my master assasin can kill archie at all?
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a clanrat could kill archie just need damn good roles
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ok... thats a possibility but its not a reall chance...

if you give him the weeping blades and the bands of power, and make him a sniksh wannabe, he has quite a real chance, although a ward save ould be nice otherwise Archie will squish you...

its not a good equal fight, achie is worth almost 4 of your asassins with his 855 points...
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i have killed him onece in a mega battle using 2 warp lightning cannnons.
quite amusing killing something nearly 4 times the amount of points used to kill him. B)
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A master assassin will most unlikely kill him, because or lack of either attack, or a good ward. (either fellblade, od weeping + amulet)

As said earlier, he is worth 850+ points, where youe MA about 300 points.

Deathmaster Snitch, now, that's another story. The killing blow, as well as all other things he have will surely beat him. depends if you want a loyal fight or not. If you dont, challenge and put all on his steed to rack many and easy extra points, then catch him with your 3D6 roll against his 2D6.
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Hmm... never fought Archaon before, but this is what I know about him.

T5, 1+ armor save (never worse than 3+) and 3+ ward save.

The problem is that he's a tough nut to crack. Even if you were to hit him 3 times with the fellblade, there's still only a 27.8% combined chance that you'd get through the toughness test, armor save and ward save and actually do any damage. Of course all it takes is one hit with the fellblade to potentially kill him, but you are not likely to get through his crunchy outside to get to the creamy inside.
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i killed him once with a unit of monks, slaves and clan rats! he lost combat and i ran him down :P
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thats the best way though it is difficult...

Mike just to correct you a little: it isnt his AS that cant be worse than 3+, its the to wound roll that can never be better than 3+ (even if you wound automatically)

I like the WLC anecdote, very funny... man i would be pissed off
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Mike just to correct you a little: it isnt his AS that cant be worse than 3+, its the to wound roll that can never be better than 3+ (even if you wound automatically)

Ah, yes! I misread it.

Well then, three attacks with the fellblade gives a 4+ to hit, 3+ to wound, no armor save and 3+ ward save. That is considerably better odds. That's a 11% chance of wounding with every swing.

It's possible, but the dice better be on your side.

Weeping blades would be 4+ to hit, 3+ to wound, 3+ armor save and 3+ ward save. That's only a 3.7% chance of wounding per swing. Plus it would take at least two successful wounds to kill him at d3.

That's about a snowball's chance with weeping blades.
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butliip. according to me, Snitkch IS a master assassin... so use a MASTER ASSASSSIN, and kik his arse!

just my 2 cheating warptokens worth

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I saw Archie's Sword kill Archie once... that was funny.

Anyway, Snikcj could probably take him on, but a master Assassin would need awesome dice rolls. A weeping blade might help, as if you can get through his saves... :D :ph43r:

And bands of power might help get through Armour Saves...

So I would agree with Mallekha.
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I've killed Archie with 5 bret bowmen before, I just happen to be VERY lucky.

Trick is to get him down to one wound then have your MA and perhaps a supporting assassin jump on him (not in a challenge) and slice him up with fellblade/weeping blades combo.

However, I feel you have lost a fiver.
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I think our friend butlip was wondering if a Master Assasin would be able to kill Archeon, not if Bretonnian Bowmen, or Warp-lightning Cannons can :P

The Master Assasin does have potential to kill the Overlord of Chaos, but it is very small potential. With the proper wargear(Weeping Blade, Bands of Power) and a legion of 6's, you can eventually take down Archeon.

In reality, I suggest you pepperfire on Archeon first with Jezzails or Ratling Guns, and when he is weak, let the Master Assasin take him down. And Plus, it's not like it's cheating or something, you did end up killing Archeon with the Master Assasin :P

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The killing blow, as well as all other things he have will surely beat him.


The Master Assasin's Killing Blow only works on Archeon if he is Unmounted. Who in their right mind fields Archeon on Foot?
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is acheons mount a monster mount or a normal mount if moster then just kill the mount for the kb
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the daemonic steed is a monstruous mount in all its respects (and a good ne too) so shoot the beast first, then jump on Archaon.

Hako, what are the chances of wounding him per swing if I use the bands of power? It wound neglect the AS...

let me calculate... 8,9% per swing cause he still has 6+ save... if the assassin had str9 that would be 11% (as the fellblade but no risk of getting hit by own weapon...)

*checks weaping blade rules... +1 S.... :mellow: ... *thinks* HURRAYYY S9 for the assassin*

so its the same chance for less points spent
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