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DoW in Skaven Armies
Topic Started: 19th August 2005 - 02:46 PM (678 Views)
Frankensqueek
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Which DoW regiment do you recommend for use in a Skaven army? I was thinking about maybe having a strong, durable, elite block unit like those Pikemen whose names i've forgotten.

Any other ideas?

The trouble is, it'd need to be fluffy.

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scrivener
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If you're going for pikemen, you could simply model clanrats with extra long spears, maybe?

For DOW, I'd be thinking more along the lines of ogres for hardhitters (for fluff you could make them as super-bred ratogres) or cavalry of either sort, since that's the main gap in the skaven list.
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urputnik
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fluffy is to not hire any DoW :P

in skaven armies only one troop is missing - heavy cavalery ..
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(Mostly) Overatted.

This sort of topic can draw quite a bit of fire from Skaven 'traditionalists', of which I am one (but I'll be gentle with you ;) ).

I think that the rats of war are far more effective without any Dogs of War. I believe that to include the latter merely serves to dilute the inherent strengths of a Skaven army, and that no amount of window dressing can disguise the fact that your "Skaven with long spears" do not have the Skaven special rules and are simply not Skaven.

Skaven are an immensely strong army once mastered, so you don't need DoW to paper over any perceived vulnerabilities. You may do that (and that's no certainty), but only at the expense of also negating the strengths and unique charattre that makes the Mouster Race so uniquely wonderful to play (with and against).

If you want to play DoW is an entirely separate issue, and I really do love using my DoW army. As a separate entity.

Have fun either way,
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I love DoW and have used them with my Skaven on occasion. Foolish man-things are easy to maniplute to the cause of the Horned Rat!

Pikemen are excellent defenders but I seldom use them with my Skaven. BTW I use plastic Empire spearmen from the starter set with elongated spears to represent pikes. I don't use any of the Regiment of Renown pikemen, just the generic ones.

I especially like duellists with pistols because, well...I like pistols (Skaven should really have more pistols!). I've also used cannons in a siege where I didn't field a bell and GS. I have some extra Skaven bits and in time I plan on converting a Skryre cannon team if I ever field it with my Skaven again.

My favorite Regiment of Renown is Mengil's Manflayers. Those DE are expensive but definately worth it IMO. Their extra VP rule is perfect to supplement an Eshin army.

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I would personaly do Ogres, though I dislike DoW.
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brownmccoy
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If you want to make it fluffy, simply say they're addicted to warpstone :P that always works.

but I have a grudge against using DoW, unless you need them to make that point size.
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If I was going to have DoW I would go for ogres because they are really hard hitting. Also a fluffy way to do it could be to have warpstone addicted ogres who are being munipulated because of their lust for it.

But really skaven don't need DoW because they are already really powerful.
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Tarondor
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DoW can be themed for skaven. Just convert. FOr Ogres use rat ogres, for cavalry of any type convert clanrats to sit on nurglitchs rat-beast he sits on, for Pikemen use stormvermin, for cannon make it clan skyre like with skaven crew, for duelists convert gutter runners or the likes to have pistols, there are alot of possibilities you just need imagination (and in most cases money/time) but truly they won't ever be themed because, as Nurgl!tch III said, they won't have the skaven rules.

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D99
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I never really take DoW, because it makes my army not look as coherent.

If I was though, I would probably take either some heavy cavalry, as that is the main thing lacking from the Skaven list, or some ogre bulls/ironguts, as they are way more effective than Rat Ogres to me, and at a lesser price.
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Think that skaven would need some fast cavalry/w missile weapons.

On the other hand I really don't like DoWs. They don't seem to fit for skaven in my eye...
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Frankensqueek
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I think there should be a DoW skaven unit, there's one for almost every other race.

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More fun, fluffy, and easier without the untrustworthy Dogs ("and black, said the raven of the crow"*).

I hate Dow.

But, if I had a choice, I would go for a unit of archers, or Ogres.

Skaven are really short on large units of accurate ranged weapons.

And Ogres kick butt.


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urputnik
Aug 19 2005, 10:07 AM
fluffy is to not hire any DoW :P

in skaven armies only one troop is missing - heavy cavalery ..

and light cavalry :P

although in the new moulder army list (ya its coming out... in 7th ed) there MIGHT be light cavalry, mutated rat centurs or something

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