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7th ed box starter set; meand me mate are thinking very loudly
Topic Started: 13th August 2005 - 09:14 PM (802 Views)
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I love the idea of realms, its cool and its sorta like the old campaign box sets they used to sell 4th ed i think. but ur right itll prob be battle of magre style, which will suck as i like the idea of getting basically a battalion set with the rule book
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I hope they stay away from Dwarfs, as they aren't exactly a great army to start with. THey need to do something more generic, with a more cheap army versus a more elite one.

Skaven vs High Elves would be great.
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if i had to take a geuss it wont be any kind fo army that requires a mass so gobbos n skaven are pretty much out the window gw would keep to the smaller armys to keep the cost of plastic lower so they get more buck for less bang
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The Battle of Macragge featured Tyranids which are the epitome of a horde army. I could easily see them use goblins or orcs again. The army is decent and the standard rank-n-file troopers don't have a lot of funky rules other than animosity.

I also don't see why dwarfs would be a bad choice. They're a pretty straight forward army that would be fairly easy for a beginner to use.


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I don't think that skaven would be good for starter pack, theyre maybe bit too complicated for beginners...or maybe not, I was just thinkin about their special rules...
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That depends on what ghoes in, say they have clannies monks ro's and a we, then yes its a very rule heavy army

but if they had say clannies slaves giant rats and cheiftain, apart from the strength in numbers there isnt really that much thats gonna come up in starter games is there? i know i didnt bother about challenges till i started to play more seriously and had the army books ect...
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With the exception of Undead armies, nearly any army would be suitable for a starter box. With only core choices. maybe a special choice, and a non-wizard character there wouldn't be enough special rules to confuse most new players.

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Although all of this crap is rumors, i'd say 7th edition won't be happening till... mayve late 2007-early 2008.

Skaven are way out of the picture. They were already re-released back in 2002, They already have a Battalion Box, and a huge plastic array of models. Plus, they were already one of the main armies in the Lustria campaign.

The possibly armies I'd say are Dark Elves, Dwarves and Vampire Counts, for they are the armies without Battalions are any updates over the past years they've been released.


So, Dwarves vs. Dark Elves, or VC vs. Dwarves. That would be cool.
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hmmmmm... im thinking High Elf vs. Chaos myself.

I am also thinking generic good vs. evil battle. No deep fluff to show why each is fighting the other but a straight-laced light vs. dark battle to the death.
The "good" races are lizardmen, empire, high elves, brettonia and perhaps wood elves.
I reckon that empire is out of it, they're a bit too generic human type, at least to a beginners eye. Lizardmen are good, but I think people are looking for humanoids and everybody who has seen/read Lord of the Rings knows elves are good.
Also they are not swayed by Chaos and they know that the Skaven exist (stoopid humans! (skaven) ) wood elves are now more viscious and not exactly as nice as they used to be, so I'm going with the High Elves.

With "bad" races there are a fair few, but you can't get badder than Chaos. Daemons are too strange rules-wise, Beastmen are...well...goats...that walk!...with sharp sticks too, mind!
Mortal Chaos sounds much more likely. Also, they are human looking and both armies have a high points cost, meaning that with less models you can get a more points and get into battles quickly. Besides, each is the opposite of the other! One wears light, graceful armour and cloth and wield long, finely worked swords, whereas Chaos is spiky and black and fully armoured and hit people with deceptively sharp axes or cudgels.

If Skaven were in there I would be happy but I don't think that it is feasible for some reason. :rogre:
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High Elves vs Chaos sounds very likely to me too...

Fluff wise it fits wonderflly too for he next edition, think about it. Chaos fumbled when it tried to conquer the Old World, so now it's gonna attack the other side, Ulthuan, also a sworn old school enemy of Chaos...

They could off course go to the other end of the world too, and do an Ogre vs Cathay or Orc type of thing...

and then of course there is the upmarch of the Undead... Nagah will come back i think and the Skaven, Tomb Kings and Brettonian are going to be involved IMO

actually i don't know, i hope GW will surprise me in a good way and make a good new 7th edition. Chaos vs HE seems the most old type, but they might do something new
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Aug 17 2005, 02:19 AM
So, Dwarves vs. Dark Elves, or VC vs. Dwarves. That would be cool.

7th ed. magic revision might trigger that dwarves will be one of those armies that is going to be heavily revised, which makes them not very suitable for starter armies.

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i hope they revise the lores, especially heaven, i think it should have line of sight for most of them hmph but yh i suppose if dwarfs are being revised then they wouldnt make a great starter set. i still think there be a horde like army in it tho
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While at the Game Workshop at Opry Mills (Nashville, TN), I asked one of the employees what GW is working on now that Wood Elves have been released. He proceeded to tell me that they are working on new plastic dwarfs (as we all know the current ones aren't as fun to assemble as other races ... not much variety imho).
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Aug 13 2005, 05:14 PM
... and the dwarfs are rumoured to be the first update for 7th ed)

its not just a rumor-its true, the dwarves do have the first update, I've been informed by an employee at my GW that A) the dwarf warriors are now off the shelves B) they are getting a new warriors plastic reg box, C) they are getting an artillery plastic box D) they are getting a batalion which is when they get an update roughly like the dark elves did

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Aug 17 2005, 07:59 PM
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Aug 13 2005, 05:14 PM
... and the dwarfs are rumoured to be the first update for 7th ed)

its not just a rumor-its true, the dwarves do have the first update, I've been informed by an employee at my GW that A) the dwarf warriors are now off the shelves B) they are getting a new warriors plastic reg box, C) they are getting an artillery plastic box D) they are getting a batalion which is when they get an update roughly like the dark elves did

Oh please, just because a GW employee says something, dosen't exactly mean its true. I'll believe everything you have said when it's up here on my computer screen or right in front of my eyes.

Really, I'm not doubting the fact that Dwarves might be coming out, but it's one of those things that you shouldn't believe just because a GW employee tells you. Okay, so a GW employee is one that might have good knowledge, but those are the type of people who try to spoon-feed you with wrong information.

Now when it comes to armies that HAVE the possibility of being in the Starter Set, I'll give it a go.

Lizardmen - Released in March 2003, Spotlight in Lustria, Has Battalion - No!
High Elves - Released in November 2001, Has Battalion, Given New BT and Heroes Maybe
Ogre Kingdoms - Released in January 2005, Has Battalion No!
Wood Elves - Released in August 2005, Has Battalion No!
Skaven - Released in January 2002, Has Battalion, Got Plastic Rat Ogres + Plague Monks, Spotlight in Lustria No!
Tomb Kings - Released in October 2002, Has Battalion, Maybe
Chaos - Released in May 2002, Has Battalion(?), Been in Spotlight, Popular since
released, Spotlight in SoC Maybe
Dark Elves - Released in May 2001, Dosen't Have Battalion, Been Revised
Ruleswise - Revision Yes!
Vampire Counts - Released in February 2001, Doesn't Have Battalion, Rarely been touched Yes!
Dwarves - Released in November 2000, Dosen't Have Battalion, Rarely been Touched Yes!
Bretonnians - Released in November 2003, Has Battalion, previous Starter Set No!
Orcs and Goblins - Released in September 2000, Has Battalion, hasn't really been touched, previous Starter Set Maybe?
Empire -Released in September 2000, Has Battalion, hasn't really been touched, previous Starter Set, Spotlight in SoC, Maybe?


Well, there you have it.
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