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| Ogre Maneater Ninja; can they be used under cover of darknes? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: 10th August 2005 - 07:08 AM (716 Views) | |
| RandommaN | 10th August 2005 - 07:08 AM Post #1 |
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I have a 500 point clan eshin army and was going to expand it to 1000 points. if I included a single maneater (the ninja :ph43r: ) would I still be able to use the under cover of darknes rule? |
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| s'nkeep | 10th August 2005 - 07:10 AM Post #2 |
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by the letter of the rules hes not skirmishing, but then again hes a single model... so its really hard to tell... depends on how you argue it... myself since you dont have any rank and file models its still is ok to use ucod. of course im not offically allowed to quote or give feedback on rules as ive been wrong too many times LOL |
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| Skagrit | 10th August 2005 - 07:18 AM Post #3 |
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I think that he is classified as an single model
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| Mallekha the Overwhelmer | 10th August 2005 - 08:43 AM Post #4 |
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yep single model so i think its ok rule wise (pretty strange otherwise to have a stealthy ogre :D) if your using a single character models in your army he also get the under cover rule, even if his rules dont say he skirmishes |
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| Tarondor | 10th August 2005 - 02:00 PM Post #5 |
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Where is the under cover of darknes rule written? If it's in the skaven book what page? thanks - Tarondor P.S. All characters that are alone count as skirmishers for with rule exceptions that are stated in the rulebook. |
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| Mallekha the Overwhelmer | 10th August 2005 - 02:50 PM Post #6 |
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its in the SoC book, for the Eshin list, not in the Skaven book |
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| GuyInBritain | 10th August 2005 - 06:44 PM Post #7 |
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I don't think that an ogre can get the Cover of Darkness rule isn't it only for skaven? |
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| s'nkeep | 10th August 2005 - 06:56 PM Post #8 |
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Ajax = warpstone juice
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ive seen ucod house ruled... for multiplayer games as long as the one side was skirmishing it didnt matter... so it stacked well with a beast of chaos list...
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| Sebrent | 10th August 2005 - 10:52 PM Post #9 |
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That seems a bit unbalanced to me. The reason the eshin list even has that is because they don't get rank bonuses when skirmishing. The beasts of chaos get all the benefits of skirmishing and a rank bonus that is only 1 less than the full max rank bonus of full units of non-skirmishers. |
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| Tilara | 11th August 2005 - 06:02 AM Post #10 |
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I don't want to dig out my rulebook at the moment, but doesn't the "single character counts as skirmishing" rule apply only to characters (ie. heros/lords) on 20-25mm bases? Or am I thinking of characters allowed to join skirmish units? I'm fairly sure you can't have a mounted character join a skirmish unit of foot troops. I may check my book later to look that up, but I do recall something being written on a subject dealing with it. |
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| SneekyGit | 11th August 2005 - 09:04 AM Post #11 |
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I would say no as it is treated as a monster (has to wheel , 90deg vision) however Im sure if you write a good enough fluff your opponent will let u take it uncod |
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| acolite | 16th August 2005 - 02:52 PM Post #12 |
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lol! My opponent would let me use house rules even if I wrote a trilogy of Best Selling Novels which sold in 400 different countries! mind you, it's probable worth a try... Nice idea though, seeing an army of black coated rats then this massive Ogre in the middle! |
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| Sebrent | 16th August 2005 - 05:32 PM Post #13 |
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If going by the rules, you wouldn't be able to use UCoD as Maneaters are not individual characters and they are not skirmishers; they are bought as a unit with a unit size of 1+. Thus, they don't fit the requirement for all your units to be either skirmishers or characters. |
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| Grey seer White Paw | 16th August 2005 - 08:40 PM Post #14 |
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I say no, as one its unfluffy two he is a unit of one not a character and three hes on a large base and his rules dont state him as skirmish (thinking swarm here) |
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| Ratspark the Singed | 20th August 2005 - 08:28 AM Post #15 |
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I would also say no because he not skirmishing or a character. But it would be cool if I was proven wrong (gotta love the idea of a silent ogre ninja). |
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