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| Tweet Topic Started: 3rd August 2005 - 02:31 AM (607 Views) | |
| Warlord Gnashik | 3rd August 2005 - 02:31 AM Post #1 |
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Backing Veer-myn Dreadball teams!
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I had also thought of using a BSB and might try it out at some point. I cringe every time I have to roll a Panic test for my NR on their LD6. A reroll could help sometimes. Has anyone else tried one and if so how well did it work? |
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| Xh!n Tarat | 3rd August 2005 - 02:48 AM Post #2 |
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(Mostly) Overatted.
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A Battle Standard Bearer is not an option listed for Eshin. It kind of defeats the purpose of a covert undercover strike by secretive Assassins if there's one waving a great big banner around. And the secret for Sorcerats to take out war machine crews is to never be outnumbered by the crew. So you need two to attack Elves, and three for anybody else. This also means that Skitterleap should never be used for these assaults - charge in on foot every time. (My two Tunneller teams tend to take out the arty long before the Sorcerats get there in my games.) |
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| Tilara | 3rd August 2005 - 06:44 AM Post #3 |
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Grey Seer
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Since when? The list I see says "Chieftain" under heros. There is no special chieftain listing or exception for Eshin list so you must default back to pg42 of the army book. Pg42 chieftain listing notes, "(see right side pannel)". The right side pannel (pg43) details the army battle standard saying one chieftain in the army may carry the battle standard for the approprate cost. So are you trying to tell us Eshin can't buy chieftains? The "battle standard" is simply a piece of gear one chieftain (and only one chieftain) in an army may select in much the same way he buys armor or weapons. |
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| Grey seer White Paw | 3rd August 2005 - 08:25 PM Post #4 |
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Warlord of 7th Tactics!
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I believed that eshin could take a bsb as they can take a cheiftain and has been said there is no special mention that they cant. Id say take three lvl 2's two spell caddies and one ofensive (give him a magic wepon mwhahahahaha ) I(f u play eshin right, and ur ucod rolls are good, they shouldnt be forcing u to take to many tests anyways.
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| Warlord Gnashik | 3rd August 2005 - 08:47 PM Post #5 |
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Backing Veer-myn Dreadball teams!
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I'm under the same impression as Tilara. However, I only have the PDF document of the Eshin list from GW's website. Does the SoC book state that Eshin Chieftains cannot be BSBs? |
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| philleehellphia | 3rd August 2005 - 08:59 PM Post #6 |
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Link in Disguise
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3 Sorcerers and an Assasin would be nice. An Eshin Chieftin can be a BSB by all I know, although I don't have the SoC Book so I can't stand by my opinion. |
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| Xh!n Tarat | 3rd August 2005 - 09:36 PM Post #7 |
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(Mostly) Overatted.
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You may have a point, technically Tilara. But if I played an Eshin army at a tournament which did include a BSB, I'd automatically prune that player's soft scores for their complete ignorance or lack of committment to the fluff of the army. As I stated before: what covert ops feature an army of commandos sneaking up on an enemy + one dude waving a large rag on a long stick? Just my two tiptoes' worth, |
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| Grey seer White Paw | 3rd August 2005 - 10:48 PM Post #8 |
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Warlord of 7th Tactics!
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Lol hes the distraction... * Ted: hay bob whats that rat doing out there waving that neon coloured flag about? Bob: i dont know but lets send out the guards to kill him Ted: ok (rat gets slughtered by a whole fort load of humans) Ted: well that was a job well done wasnt it bob? Ted bob, bob?... (ted falls to the floor with a slash across his throat) (guards return to find themselves locked out of their base....) lol |
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| Malignus Rodenticus | 4th August 2005 - 08:01 PM Post #9 |
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Attorney to the Rats
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As for the BSB, in and Eshin army, you can ahve a chieftain, and a chieftain can always be a BSB, so I guess you can have a BSB. Furthermore, this might be really good because if you take the storm banner, you affect your shooty opponents. Really really good against pansey ass elves. As for sorcerers, I take no more than 1, level one. I give him 2 dispell scrolls and thats it. I use the scrolls only on spells that don't need LOS, as under cover of darkness can slow down ranged spells. THe only other trick is take him, cast skitter leap, and make your opponent use all his dispel dice (because he will, thinking you have only this spell item), and use a warpstorm scroll to hurt his flyers (of course you must make sure he has used all his dispell scrolls first). MR |
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| Warlord Gnashik | 4th August 2005 - 09:06 PM Post #10 |
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Backing Veer-myn Dreadball teams!
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Okay, but what if the Eshin used something other than a banner? Look at DoW, their Paychest counts as a Battle Standard. Now, what could a bunch of Ninja Rats carry that would be as inspirational to them as a Battle Standard? Anybody got any suggestons? |
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| s'nkeep | 4th August 2005 - 10:05 PM Post #11 |
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Ajax = warpstone juice
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banners are for moral point of view not as a target... I gave some nightrunners the one that causes fear to much effect... as it helps them autobreak units if they win combat which is something they have trouble with (winning combat quickly) due to not having ranks but still possible also the normal default one that rerolling break is damn handy to have when your leadership on nightrunners is what 6... remember not all of them are ninjas as the nightrunner box does have mostly clanrat looking bodies... if you skitterleap the guy around that default banner with its 12" radius can come handy... shame magic phase is after movement so you have to wait a turn for the chief to join a unit so you wouldnt be able to gain the effects of other banners like +4 ward save vs shooting... |
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| s'nkeep | 8th August 2005 - 03:51 AM Post #12 |
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Ajax = warpstone juice
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*split thread now be nice to each other :D* |
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| Warlord Kriack | 8th August 2005 - 06:08 PM Post #13 |
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Sexiest Damn Rat You'll Ever See
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Yes, I think that the no bsb is a common sense thing. Make it a house rule, and beat whoever disagrees senseless. ![]()
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Very good, You found the almighty........ SIG OF DARKNESS AHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... | |
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| General Vorg | 8th August 2005 - 11:09 PM Post #14 |
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Keeper of the Squeeks and the Temple
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So... its "legal" since it doesnt say you CANT do it... but its so unflufflike i would call it powergaming squeeks |
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| Tilara | 9th August 2005 - 06:18 AM Post #15 |
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Grey Seer
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In that case should rule out jezzails and poison wind globidiers as well. Jezzails are much longer than a banner is tall and the pavise is certainly as large as an icon. Likewise, globidiers with their enormous backpacks, resperators, and clumsyness with their globe dropping couldn't possibly be stealth troops. Besides, they aren't even members of Eshin. Its just common sense to exclude them as well. |
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) I(f u play eshin right, and ur ucod rolls are good, they shouldnt be forcing u to take to many tests anyways.


