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| Tweet Topic Started: 6th August 2005 - 05:41 PM (358 Views) | |
| jagbow17 | 6th August 2005 - 05:41 PM Post #1 |
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I'm not realy sure if my question has to be posted here, but I might as well take the chance... ( and maybe stay out of the hands of the Council of Thirtheen )Oh, but we take so much joy on keeping you unsure if your safe or not...~Vinshqueek~ I have a very urgent question: What magic combo works best with a Grey Seer, when he's not on a Bell. My instinct tells me to always take the Eye, because that xtra Powerdice can come inhandy. Another 75 pionts to spend. I'm sure, there's lots of rats outthere, who can give me a good piece of advice on this matter :rolleyes: |
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| Saint Anger | 6th August 2005 - 06:05 PM Post #2 |
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personally i'd avoid the eye, definately give him the twisted crown cause then he can regenerate all those wounds he loses from his own magic other than that, maybe a warpscroll, depends on what points size, whether the list is for a specfic opponent and various other factors |
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| Ehx-ray | 6th August 2005 - 08:15 PM Post #3 |
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In my opinion take warpstone amulet, eye of the horned rat , warp scroll or dispel scroll. You will have good ward save (4+), and lot of magic........ |
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| Grey seer White Paw | 6th August 2005 - 09:20 PM Post #4 |
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NOOOOO never take the am,ulet on ur general! when he dies at the end of the game which he will eventually ur opponent not only gets the 300 sumink points for the seer but also the 100 for him dying, all this without actually havinmg to kill him during the battle! when will peeps learn??? i take the warpscroll and crown or eye and crown eithers gd |
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| General Vorg | 6th August 2005 - 09:31 PM Post #5 |
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Keeper of the Squeeks and the Temple
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Take the crown and dispell scrolls, you need them or magic will simply demolish you squeeks |
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| Warlord Gnashik | 6th August 2005 - 09:37 PM Post #6 |
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I also like the Twisted Crown. Then I usually use a Dispel Scroll and a Warpscroll. I let another warlock be my scroll caddy and take 2 dispel scrolls there. |
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| Skaven Lord Vinshqueek | 6th August 2005 - 09:58 PM Post #7 |
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Twisted + dispel scroll + warpscroll is over 100 points of magic items... If using him off the bell, I'd be using him with twisted crown, eye and a dispel scroll. Greetz |
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| daionosis | 6th August 2005 - 11:40 PM Post #8 |
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I'd love to do that, but isn't the Warp Stone Charm wort it's weight in gold? cheers, Daionosis Rove |
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| SingTheScreams | 7th August 2005 - 04:07 AM Post #9 |
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so's a dispel scroll (bye bye comet of cassandora without the risk!), or an extra power die (that plague spell got off!). then again, you could always use the charm to alter something (not screaming bell ringing results unfortunately <_< ). its all about personal preference. that's why there's such a big list! myself, i always take twisted crown and 2 scrolls on my seer and weeping blade with enchanted shield and heavy armor on my warlord. good 50pt combos: storm daemon and... well just about anything. dispell scroll, charm, death globes, you name it. warpstone amulet and bands of power with extra hand weapon. lots of high strength attacks that has lots of protection. works amazingly on a plague priest (5 s8 attacks! with t5 and a 4+ ward save!), and even if your amulet kills the character at the end, you havent lost TOO many points. |
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| Argan | 7th August 2005 - 11:53 AM Post #10 |
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I take the twisted crown and 5 warpstone chunks |
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| daionosis | 7th August 2005 - 03:08 PM Post #11 |
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well, I'm now kinda convinced about dropping thw warpstone amulet on grey seers, so I'm taking form now on: the Twiseted crown Dispel scroll and the Warpstone Charm. this gives me a well protected magic user, who can still get enough powerdice due to his natural 4 warpstone chunks, and he'll be able to avoid the occaisional miscast, etc. also, the D scroll will give me some more defence, since I'm not using warlocks. cheers, Daionosis Rove |
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| Skaskrit Venomclaw | 8th August 2005 - 11:48 AM Post #12 |
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Grey Seers are very expensive. Almost prohibitively expensive in 2000 points, I find. So I generally try to limit their equipment to the bare minimum. My grey seer usually carries a dispel scroll and the warpstone charm. The scroll because I need scrolls anyway, and the charm because it's indeed worth it's weight in gold. (It can stop a miscast, make a spell succeed, stop a warpstone charm from wounding you, stop a warpstone charm from wounding you and making you miscast, change a really nasty miscast result, make a plague spell strike the enemy again instead of spreading back to your units, stop warplightning from incinerating the seer himself and instead stop that chariot crashing down your flank... convinced yet? The seer has so many random rules and spells, all of which can bite you in the tail if the dice betray you, that having this little bit of insurance is almost mandatory for me.) This does mean the seer is relatively unprotected. So I hide him carefully, and usually he manages to survive the battle. (Skitterleap helps, so does leading from the rear. Only warplightning really suffers for this.) If the seer was my only wizard, I would probably invest in a second dispel scroll. Though this does depend on the average opponent in your club... mine almost always use heavy magic, so the extra scroll is needed. Oh, and I don't think a single grey seer will be all that effective without some magic backup... he's only got 6 powerdice, which allows you to cast 2 decent spells per turn, maybe 3 if you use tokens. And you pay nearly 300 points for that... If you don't want warlocks, I'd get a plague priest with the Liber Bubonicus for backup. The liber bubonicus is a much better buy than the Eye of the Horned Rat, because it offers both a power dice and a dispel dice for only a couple of extra points, and gives you another spell into the bargain. (albeit a poor one.) The priest, when armed with a flail or censer, will also make a very good character to boost your army's fighting prowess and leadership, both of which suffer because of the absence of the warlord. |
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| D99 | 8th August 2005 - 07:45 PM Post #13 |
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I have a few set ups. 1. 3+ Ward Save Cloak (I can't remember the name of it for the life of me), with a dispel scroll usually. This keeps him free from shooting harm, as most units can't hit him if hes on his own anyweay, and the save just protects against magic missiles. 2. Warpstone Amulet, Eye of the Horned Rat (Maybe Dispel Scroll) I like this one also, mainly for the very cheap 4+ ward save. An extra die is always nice to have, and is included in this set up because if my seer goes down, then the extra die isn't really needed since my warlocks can't use it. I usually don't like to overload one character with items, as it makes him a even bigger target. I don't mind a little skaven randomness if my seer dies, its all in the spirit of skaven anyway. Those are the only real set ups I like so far, the crown is a little expensive for me. Regeneration is nice, but then I'll probably be approaching 75 worth of magic items on my seer, making him a big target. |
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| General Vorg | 8th August 2005 - 11:15 PM Post #14 |
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I would choose dispell scroll...was that a retorical quiestion ![]() for a cheiftain i would take warpstone amulet and a great weapon... *froths over 3 strength 6 attacks from a guy that costs 82 points and is a pretty good general for small battles* squeeks |
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| WoombaWoomba | 19th August 2005 - 08:52 PM Post #15 |
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I like that anti-magic-and-usual-missles-cloak too, if he's not in a unit, because thats probably how the enemy will attack the GS, with magic and missles... AND, its only 30 points... The cloak, warpscroll, 2 warpstone tokens and then a warlock or two as dispel scroll caddies... |
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