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Do you limit yourself when making your own Clan?
Topic Started: 3rd August 2005 - 09:31 PM (576 Views)
Warlord Gnashik
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I got to thinking while making an army list how I limit myself due to the background of my Warlord's Clan and wondered if anyone else has the tendency to do this.

I've played Skaven for quite some time now and have come up with a lot of background for my Warlord's clan, Clan Skreek. Basically it boils down to me fielding my army in ways that correspond to the fluff.

For example, Clan Skreek makes use of Eshin and Skryre units but hardly ever any Moulder or Pestilens units. This was because in the beginning I didn't have PM or RO minis so I designed the fluff to represent what I could field. I've worked this into a mental-variant army list by thinking of Rat Ogres and Plague Monks as Rare choices. For Plague Priests and the Moulder hero I count them as a Special choice in addition to being a Hero choice.

Even though I do have plenty of those minis now, I still limit myself with almost every list I make. The exceptions tend to be in campaigns that I don't consider tied to my Clan's history.

I could go into even more detail and how this has evolved into me making my Eshin army, fielding a Skryre army led by a newly elevated Master Warlock, and a desire to make a Pestilens army with no ties to Clan Skreek, but I won't.

Instead I just wanted to see if anyone else puts limitations on the standard armylist to represent their own Clan and if so what?

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phordicus
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my clan is here. most of the fluff for it is with xerxes' stuff.

the best way to check for fairness (as opposed to balance) is to just put yourself in your opponent's shoes: can the army be countered by units and/or strategy? if yes, you've got a winner.

basically, by reducing the effectiveness of pestilens and moulder, you've already handicapped yourself considerably. your opponent is more likely to be able to predict your army composition and plan accordingly. imagine going against a chaos player who doesn't/can't/won't use any khorne and slaanesh units.

as far as making not-my-clan lists, i just pretend it's some rogue warlord going against doctrine. if he wins, xerxes has a rival. if he loses, well, he's dead or soon will be. either way the clan keeps evolving and stays fresh.
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Grey seer White Paw
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Erm no... But then again my clan isnt so much a clan rather than a following of my upstart rebel seer. so i take everything and the fluff is they joined my religous crusade!
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daionosis
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yes I do, IMHO an army has got to have a theme 'so that it's nice to build paint and play with. that was one of the issueas i had with skaven before really delving into them, I liked everything, but taking everything ain't a theme!

so now I've settled for Moulder. I do take other clans units tohugh, but only when I can make up some models and fluff to represent them as being more Moulderish.

cheers, Daionosis Rove
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Warlord Potsmasher
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Yes. My army is devoted to Slaanesh, and so I eliminated Moulder and Eshin troops, as those really arn't Slaaneshi. My Plague Monks are represented as Slaaneshi Fanatics. I use very little Skryre, only a few Ratling Guns and a unit of Globadiers. I still have to come up with a fluff thingy for them.
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Dude, if I was stuck in the middle of nowhere with an exact copy of myself I wouldn't kill him. That'd be so wierd i'd just be like "yo dude... got any pot?" 
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Morkskittar
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I don't put on any limitations. My Clan likes to win, and will do anything, except hire Dogs of War. I hate them. Learn to fight without them, and you will be better off. Can't trust them... :ph43r:

So, basically, I have no need to, as my fluff supports no limitations...
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Warlord Gnashik
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I like DoW and use them from time to time with my warlord's clan. He's no ninny, sometimes you gotta hire outside help to really pummel certain opponents. Then again, I have worked their use into my ongoing fluff. I especially like the DE Manflayers. I am certain they'll be used in my Eshin army on occasion too.

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daionosis
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meh, when I use DoW, i convert them to something that fits the theme of my army. DoW are a great way to use that model you've always wanted in your skaven force, and then make up some awesome skaven mini for it. want duelers? buy night runners, give them pistols and there yea go, you have a nice skaven-ish unit, for your SAD.

I love DoW.

cheers, Daionosis Rove
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Warlord Vask Warpskull
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I also limit myself when designing a Warlord Clan. Clan Sacrus only makes use of Eshin and Pestilen's agents when using the services of the Greater Clans, because those are the only two Greater Clans that it's Warlord really fears (and want sto suck up to).
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SingTheScreams
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I don't take my army to suit my fluff - I adapt my fluff to the army. I take whatever units I want then incorporate them into my fluff.

on the rare occasion i use DoW, I model them as skaven and make fluff to correspond to its battlefield role. for instance, DoW light cav could be ratwolves in a moulder-themed army
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General Vorg
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my army has skryre and moulder, which works pretty well, if I want to include eshin or pestilance id make up some fluffy thing to put them in, but i wouldnt incluide them 2 often

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Warlord Gnashik
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daionosis
Aug 6 2005, 06:43 PM
want duelers? buy night runners, give them pistols and there yea go, you have a nice skaven-ish unit, for your SAD.

Did you see Pete Underwood's Cult of the Horned Rat in WD302? I'd like to get my hands on some more Empire Free Company minis and convert them up to be Duellists with pistols. Then I'd use the Mordheim Black Skaven w/ pistol to act as the unit champion.

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Aug 7 2005, 06:20 PM
daionosis
Aug 6 2005, 06:43 PM
want duelers? buy night runners, give them pistols and there yea go, you have a nice skaven-ish unit, for your SAD.

Did you see Pete Underwood's Cult of the Horned Rat in WD302? I'd like to get my hands on some more Empire Free Company minis and convert them up to be Duellists with pistols. Then I'd use the Mordheim Black Skaven w/ pistol to act as the unit champion.

no i did not, I think, was it in the UKWD? if it wasn't than I have not, if it was, then I'll check again.
but why would you want a unit of humans led by a skaven? a proper skaven would never lower himself to a human level, IMHO.

cheers, daionosis Rove
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you misunderstood, theyre arnt humans, theyre night runners converted to have pistols and rifles

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@dianosis: it was the USA WD302.

My clan is really a regular core of three to four units of clanrats, with the support from the greater clans depending on what my opponent fields. Usually I just pick what buggers him the most and really don't care that much about the outcome after that. Fluff-wise it simply doesn't matter to me, for they are all skaven.

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