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Master moulders; Equipment?
Topic Started: 3rd August 2005 - 08:17 PM (619 Views)
Grey seer White Paw
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What is the best combonation u can come up with for a master moulder? personlly mine is bands of power(this is assuming there isnt a plague priest) and creature killer, that makes him potentally strength 8 with killing blow. Now for things like kroxigors and other armoured multiple wound nasties ie OK, this isnt good. The high strength means that i am easily capable of wounding them and stand a good 1 in 6 chance of killing them outright, and with three attacks i can easily take on a unit of kroxigors and laugh them off lol.(they will strike last unless they charge due to the great weapons)

so whats urs?
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Option 1 - the boosting hero:
Master moulder, handweapon, whip, skavenbrew

This unit can be put with giant rats and rat ogres. His whip gives him the ability to attack in the same way as a packmaster, his extra Ld being very good for combats (combined with his beastmaster rule and the fact that giant rats can rank for combat resolution, makes this quite an interesting combo for giant rat packs). The skavenbrew is used to strengthen them up a little bit, which means you will need to put them in units meant for combat, so: rat ogres or big units of giant rats.

Option 2 - the killer hero:
Master moulder, handweapon, creature killer, warpstone amulet

A little different from the setup of White Paw, due to a numbers of reasons. First of all, you equip him now for more combat. This means that he has to be put in the front of the fray to truely use him at full power. Therefor, a little bit of save (ward save that is) is kind of a must. Though, when aiming for a killing blow hit, that double strength won't really matter anymore. A small hint of advice: use this one with rat ogres. This way, your opponent has to choose to go for the VP of the hero, or fight the rat ogres.

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Isn't Creature killer only used by Throth the Unclean? Things catcher is available to Master moulders. Only creature killer's killing blow works on koroxigors and ogers. It would be great if things catcher was that powerful. Hmm... I think you may have just mixed the names.

Vinshqueek's Option 2 - the killer hero is actually what I'm going to try out. I've been planning the conversion for some time now but am working on a GW armed master moulder with warpstone amulet.
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Grey seer White Paw
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is this allowed?

master moulder with hand weapon warpstone armour enchanted sheild?

if i get this right that gives him a 2+ save and a 6+ ward save?

4+-armour
1+-sheild (ward save6+)
1+- hand weapon and sheild combo

making a 2+ save, i have a naging feeling that the sheild cannot be used for the bonus for hand weapon and sheild cos its magical and the swords mundane but even then its a 3+ save not too shabby right?
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a MM with the warpstone armour ahs indeed got a 2+ save. 4+ WA, +2 from the ES, maked a 2+ save.
you can't have the +1 AS in close combat with a magical shield or a magical weapom, I think.

so that makes 2+ :D

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You also can't combine the E-shield with warpstone armor since they are both magic armors.
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Actuelly, warpstone armour CAN be combined with echanted shield since the ES rules states that it can be combined with other magical armour.
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I havent got my book here at work, so I can't look it up, but I was under the impression that the E-shield rules said it sould be combined with other armor as normal (meaning heavy armor and the like, but not magic armor), I could be wrong though...

However I also just realised that the Master Moulders cant take the E-shield anyway because they can't take a mundane shield.

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cant they, didnt know that i had to be able to have mundane to have normal, oh well ill use it on me cheiftain then. :D
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Just dont giv him anythink just use the points for more giant rats!!!!!!


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lol always a viable answer, but u do need a master mouldeer around, the re-roll is always handy and giant rats really dotn have any killing power without them.
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A small hint of advice: use this one with rat ogres. This way, your opponent has to choose to go for the VP of the hero, or fight the rat ogres.

Unfortunatly you cant do this since the RO rules dont allow you to deploy heros in the front rank, I was gonna try that with a warlord w/ fell blade once hopped up with skaven brew from a master moulder in the back to kill OK ogres, alas I was forced to sub in stormvermin.
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Well the ES description is in the BRB (Page 154) and it makes the answer mighty clear. I also may be trying a master moulder since I really want to start this army... maybe with a few plague monks built in too...
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Grey seer White Paw
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yep mm's must be in the back rank of ro's, but why waste him with them? hes much better at the fore of a huge regiment of giant rats, close enuff to add his re-roll but not in the unit of ro's.

intresting thought in the lustria list seeing as u can now rank fro's does that mean a plague priest could go in the front? am i right in assuming he cant go in the front for the same reason they cant rank? the fluff of the idea?
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ah, the master moulder. bas almost never uses them, xept in small games.
i think that must mean something :o
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