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GW is neglecting Clan Moulder; aren't they?
Topic Started: 2nd August 2005 - 03:20 PM (1,519 Views)
Kith_0
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Now I love Rat Ogres as much as the next Master Moulder. But I agree they are to expensive.

Look at some Satistics 3 Rat Ogres = 150 and a full unit of Clanrats with Full Command at 25 models is 150 and the Clanrats will stand up to a fight much better than the ogres.

Now there has been 2 uses I have liked 3 Rat Ogres and then have Night Runners hit them in the flank with Add HW's this is devastaing.

Also to use 2 Rat Ogres and combo charge with Clanrats that way you still get the 6 S5 attacks and the Combat res from the Clanrats.

The suggestions I like is drop the cost to 40 or give them hatred.
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If you're going to compare Rat Ogres to Clanrats ... why stop there ... compare them to the Warlightning Cannon and Poison Wind Globadiers while you're at it ... Rat Ogres are used in different ways than Clanrats. Their points are what they are based on how well they perform in the various tactics that they excel at.
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true but if we compare say ro's to kroxigors or trolls, there simular and on;ly vary very slightly in pts, yet id say both are better than our ro's due to the great weapons or the regenerate thing, scaly skin or vomit ect... hence why ro's should only be 40 pts!
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Trolls, Kroxigor, and Rat Ogres cause fear.

Trolls are 55pts, Kroxigor are 58pts, and Rat Ogres are 50pts.

Trolls have 4A, Kroxigor have 3A, and Rat Ogres have 3A +1A for packmaster.

They all have the same wounds but the Rat Ogre gets +1W for the points as the packmaster is paid for by those points.

Trolls always suffer from stupidity, Kroxigor do not suffer from stupidity, and Rat Ogres only suffer from stupidity if you lose your packmasters.

They all have the same M, WS, S (though Kroxigor have Great Weapons), and T.

Trolls have the worst Ld, then Rat Ogres, and then Kroxigor.

Kroxigor have the Scaly Skin while the Trolls have regen ... Rat Ogres are naked.

Trolls and Kroxigor have an Initiative of 1 ... plus Kroxigor have the great weapon which does give +2S but makes sure they hit last while Rat Ogres have your average Initiative of 3.

Rat Ogres can be joined by a character who can use items (like Skavenbrew) to make them quite deadly

Trolls are used by Chaos, Beasts of Chaos, and Orcs & Goblins. One of which already suffers from inferior numbers and the other two suffering from low leadership. Kroxigor are fielded by Lizardmen who can field 6pt skinks who have WS2 T2 or 12pt Saurus. They obviously suffer from a lack of numbers as well unless they want a ton of T2 skirmishers. Skaven have large numbers of units who aren't weak, but are in fact quite average plus many support troops who can be just as numerous.

Now, put this all together ... stop whining about Rat Ogres ... and realize that it is balanced and fair.

Oh yeah ... there's a post on the site about the next WD having a Clan Moulder army list.


*snicker* well put... they arent being neglected just those wish for changes... it has changed into why rat ogre arent that good which is off topic thus closed* ~s'nkeep
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