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| Tweet Topic Started: 18th July 2005 - 10:24 PM (377 Views) | |
| Warlord Gnashik | 18th July 2005 - 10:24 PM Post #1 |
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First off, I'm making a Master Assassin that I want to be armed with a No-Dachi style sword to represent the Fell Blade. I'm thinking this would be best accomplished cutting it out of plasticard then shaving it into shape. I'm not much of a sculptor, so, how hard would it be to sculpt a blade out of greenstuff? I also would like to convert a new Warlord out of the "One eyed, two-handed weapon warlord." I planned on making a sword for him too. I want a big curved sword with serrated edges. I can't really find anything that I like so that pretty much leaves sculpting it. If anyone has any suggestions on making scratch built swords, I'd appreciate it. |
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| 'Ttakquick | 18th July 2005 - 11:34 PM Post #2 |
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Try the ogre ninja-maneater for his naginata (or in skaven hands a no-dachi) and you could try the Verminlord's glaive for the serrated curved sword (it even has a bell on it). Just gotta order them though! |
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| scrivener | 19th July 2005 - 12:59 AM Post #3 |
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Some of the spearheads for nightrunner sprues sorta look like nodachi. Just bend them slightly to get the curve in and cut off at the top of the shaft. |
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| Shiva | 19th July 2005 - 02:08 AM Post #4 |
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I've only done a bit of greenstuff work myself, so i'm sure others with more experience could say better, but trying to make a flat surface (like the face of the sword) would be very difficult indeed. I would try it, but not exspect it to work. |
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| Sebrent | 19th July 2005 - 05:47 AM Post #5 |
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To use the green stuff, tape down some wax paper to put it on (it won't stick to the wax paper) and cut it into the shape you want, mold, and cut, mold, and cut. if you have some latex gloves that will help you prevent putting the texture of your fingertips on the epoxy puddy. Good luck, epoxy puddy is great when you get use to using it. |
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| hakoMike | 19th July 2005 - 12:40 PM Post #6 |
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I haven't had a lot of luck making things that protrude out of green stuff. Even after it cures there is just too much elasticity. I recommend using plasticard or a toothpick or something with some rigidity to it, then molding the green stuff onto that to get the sword shape. It you want a curved sword, maybe getting a paper clip or something for the basic shape, then add multiple thing layers of green stuff onto that. (Trying to do it all at once will just cause the paper clip to stick out in some places and be lumpy in my experience.) Post pics of the final result no matter what you do. Even an imperfect technique is something we can all learn from. |
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| scrivener | 19th July 2005 - 02:37 PM Post #7 |
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My only luck I get from getting greenstuff to be smooth and even is if I mold it a little larger than the final shape, cure it, then cut it to shape. Even then the sides aren't as completely smoothly shaped as metal should be.... if I want custom shapes now i find it less hassle to get a chunk of plastic sprue and slowly sculpt it. Watch your finger though... |
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| Warlord Gnashik | 19th July 2005 - 09:56 PM Post #8 |
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If I do try to make one from greenstuff, I thought about using florist wire as the base for the blade. Then make a sausage of greenstuff around the wire. I'd try flattening it between wax paper with the help of some heavy books or something. What I am wondering is if the wire will protude too much through the greenstuff after it is pressed. I'll probably give it a go, but I really don't expect it to turn out well. I am strongly leaning to cutting a No-dachi from plasticard. I'll get out my Verminlord and check out his glaive for a possible scimitar. |
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| Sebrent | 20th July 2005 - 01:18 AM Post #9 |
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I wouldn't recommend flattening it between two books unless you're applying the pressure with the top book as otherwise you will probably make it too thin and the wire will show through. If your epoxy puddy is lumpy, you didn't get the blue and yellow sides mixed in equal amounts ... to make sure you do this, cut a straight line off your ribbon of epoxy puddy and then mix it together while running water over it (luke-warm water works better than cold in my experience) and just be patient mixing it together till every bit of it is green. I pound mine, rip it up, mash it back together, etc. till I only see the nice green mix. If you do mix it in an unequal amount, just pull that bit of yellow or blue out and go on your merry way (be patient and mold it a bit before doing this though ... you can pinch out yellow/blue and then pinch out another piece of the opposite and mash them together and then add that to the bigger piece). If you're having trouble with it being too soft after you've molded it, you're not giving it enough time to dry .. patience is needed (I learned that when making capes with epoxy puddy). The suggestion to make it larger than you want and then cut it with a modeling knife is a good suggestion too, I believe the GW website even uses that example on their site in the section on repaiting broken pieces (they were repairing a broken elf sword i believe) Good luck. |
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| dave3555 | 21st July 2005 - 05:57 PM Post #10 |
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Greenstuff is a bit too soft a material to make a blade from really. Weapons are usually made using dry techniques. That is shaping using knives, saws, files, drills, etc. Materials that are used are hardened putty and metal. There are several ways of going about this. You either need to use a harder putty such as milliput, or another alternative would be to make the blade out of plasticard, or a bit of spare plastic sprue if no plasticard is avalible to you. The advantage of using a harder putty or material such as this is that it means that you can carve and sand into the putty or plasticard blade once dry or initialy shaped to give it a good solid shape and edge. Dave |
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| hakoMike | 21st July 2005 - 07:15 PM Post #11 |
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Here's a link to a sculpting tutorial that includes a sword. The sword is at the bottom of the page. http://www.coolminiornot.com/article/aid/297/page/10 |
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