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| Dark Angel | 24th December 2004 - 04:28 PM Post #1 |
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O.K. lets get this party start cause it's gonna be a merry christmas in the Under-Empire tonight. I posted this in the painting section. I simply wanted feedback on my painting but what I didn't expect was what would happen with these pictures. Follow me into a place I like to call the twi.. errr damn copy rights. The err, skaven zone. Du na na na na NA NA It first started kind of like this... I posted a topic with bad pictures, pictures none the less. "My Skaven Clant Rat standard bearer with warpstone moon. http://img93.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img93&image=im0019975wp.jpg My 3 gutter runners http://img156.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img156&image=im0019870no.jpg ALL MIGHTY Skan'ee Blackfur lord of my rats. http://img153.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img153&image=im0020002we.jpg Better pictures of some slaves. Also another veiw of clan rat standard. http://img89.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img89&image=im0019997zw.jpg Just tell me what you think of em. I know the pictures are bad. In real life they look mutch better and the shield on skanee black fur likes like it has shadow not a bad water down paint job. I've basicly focus most on Dry brushing with these guys, any tips are welcomed and you can rat the pictures right on the link. PS: Best pictures i could get with my sisters crappy 200doller camera." Notice how I said, those were the "Best Pictures i could get with my sisters crappy 200doller camera." There first post Swingu, yes a rip of a the happy go getter, Pingu. "Below gaming standard IMHO. Don't worry though - it'll get better with practice You might also think about removing the large areas that are not occupied by miniatures from the pictures - even the simplest graphical editor can do that." Thats what he said. Gaming standard would be painting good enough to paint on a table. No, he just comes right out and says, "Below gaming standard." Sure maybe people have there opinion but there is something I call manners. Basicly he said, you suck at painting. Pingu than posted a latter topic... "Hey, don't take this so personal... OK, I guess I have some explaining to do. I used to put comments like "nice stuff" over many pictures over the net, some better, some worse. Then, over one forum (Da Warpath) the mods from the hobby subforum started a thread asking if we are too polite. That got me thinking. Seeing comments like "Best paintjob ever" next to crappy minis feels somewhat wrong. So - I decided to change my ways from being too polite into writing what I really think (and as I am somethng like a semi-professional painter, it's not easy to impress me). Again, don't feel offended - these are only some toy soldiers that need to be covered in paint to make playing more enjoyable. But the painting can be better or worse and if you will try to make them better and better instead of staying on a current level, you'll understand that I was not totally unjust to your work." Hmmmm. "Seeing comments like "Best paintjob ever" next to crappy minis feels somewhat wrong." Well if you think that than by posting a negative comment you feel my painting is crappy. Hmmmm. So, let me get this right, because some people are to nice it gives you the right to be mean? Look at this topic, no ones saying it's the best paintjob ever. Even I think I need some work. I than sent him a PM. It wasn't the best PM, but I didn't call someones painting "Below gaming standard" "i sould like you to say sorry for the insult you made against my painting. Im not the greatest painter but if you can't say anything postive learn to shut the hell up." In response to that PM he sent me... "If you are taking criticism as insult, grow up." I than did call him a moron in a post on the painting topic but later on he than posted. "As I wrote in the private message, grow up. I stand by my opinnion - the paintjob is crappy. I could of course give you some painting advice, but given your reaction, I don''t think you'd follow it anyway, so no point wasting my time. *edit* Ok, maybe the last sentence is overreacting too. Anyway, keep practising nd things will get better. (BTW gamiing standard was indeed used in a CMON sense)" Look, he did call my paintjob crappy! Look! The Evidence is right there! That is an insult!" Thank the horned rat tho that someone has common sence still. "Kissing someone's ass about their painting is one thing. Acting like an asshat to someone because you can paint better is another. I notice that in your own thread you don't seem to have a problem with people crying "OMG!!!1!! You rock so hard!!1!!". I think you need to understand that if someone bothers to take pictures of their stuff and post them for people to see that means that THEY think they are pretty good. By their own standards - even if that just means that they have improved a bit since their last pictures which you thought were even suckier." That quote was posted by Plessiez. So what when you are a good painter you deserve all the best respawnces but when theres someone els whos not as good of a painter as you they are crappy. Deathmaster Mik than goes on to defend him over and over. "Nothing 'harsh' about it. Just the thruth as he sees it. Would have been nice if he had added what he thought needs improving first and how to improve that, cause he's obviously an experienced painter." So what, because hes a better painter he can see my painting is crappy? I'm not saying anything about you Mik but look at it from my point of view. Swingu than goes to say... "(This is getting more and more hillarious... someone lock this thread or I'll get sick from laughing)" Yes it is funny, that you called someones painting crappy. O how funny, man I just can't stop laughing. Now readers, what ever you think is your own call but in my case this was an unjustify awnser to insult someone. I've taken both sides here and I just like to say that the morrel of this story is... "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all." PS: Merry christmas everyone and a happy newyear. |
| I was one of the first! I ruled apon my clan! Than they turned on me like cowards! I walk the planet searching for awnswers to this curse! I will rule once again! Squeek-squeek! Death to all those who oppose me! | |
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| grendel23 | 24th December 2004 - 04:34 PM Post #2 |
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the best revenge would be to dedicate yourself to becoming a better painter. maybe someday you can look down your nose at swingu's work. one thing, when you post your stuff, people are going to be critical, its the nature of the beast. i have stuff on protent that has rated 1 of 10, but that's to be expected. you can't satisfy everyone. i think that you have overreacted a bit on this subject if you're willing to be banned over it. [again, just another opinion] |
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| Deathmaster Mik | 24th December 2004 - 05:23 PM Post #3 |
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I believe Vince locked the exact same topic just 30 minutes ago? You just don't learn do you? I don't understand what you are so worked up about. Someone didn't like your painting and said it. Get over it. Nooo.. you just have to 'wage war' over it, don't you? (despite specific 'advice' against it) Insulting was what you did in those PM's, mister. Not the other way around. And I didn't "defend" anybody "over and over"; merely stating the obvious, wich you have a hard time seeing. As for calling my bluff about banning you. No problem; we all have a peaceful Christmas! Mik |
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| Bassik Dwarveripper | 24th December 2004 - 05:24 PM Post #4 |
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I like this guy, reminds me of me... Honestly, his paintings aint that bad? |
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| Deathmaster Mik | 24th December 2004 - 05:27 PM Post #5 |
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Hehe.. me too!
All a matter of opinion. And DA asked for opinions. Simple as that. "If you can't stand the heat, don't post pics?"
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| Darkslayer | 24th December 2004 - 05:34 PM Post #6 |
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Bassik, everyone with a few nuts short of a handbasket reminds me of you Idealy its funny in ways im sorry da but something i learned recently having a thick skin sometimes helps when your on the internet. People just understand if you post your pics for review expect at least a few negative comments. Unless your rattsu... but we can plot to kill her and take her skill later. |
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| Saint Anger | 24th December 2004 - 05:40 PM Post #7 |
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no offence DA, but you did over react a bit, and we still didnt establish what weapon the warlord had also swingu, i dont think you helped the situation, some parts of your posts (such as the getting sick from laughing) were only really stirring it up even more |
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| Bassik Dwarveripper | 24th December 2004 - 05:45 PM Post #8 |
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(mutate button... thats classie!) Yeah, we have gone a long way, haven't we, moderators? @ Dark Angel: But you must see, it is true you are taking criticsm as an insult. I am Dutch(A true Zeeuw, that is ) and I respect honesty, even if it hurts people. You totally reacted the wrong way. You know how to react? Grendel tought me(yes! he did!) that remaining calm on an internet forum is the best way to win something. And when people are criticising your paintjob, I just paint betther, so they can't say that anymore! Have fun, this is a game about toy soldiers, a big book, and dice. Why should we fight over this? doesn't this make us just like those pokemon childeren? It sure does. But I have no hard feelings against you. In fact, I kinda liked you(as far as I could tell from your posts) and if you need help, I'll stab an enemy or two for ya. Keep up painting, betther, betther, BETTHER! it is the only way, you know. Good luck, and have a very mary christmass! |
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| Deathmaster Mik | 24th December 2004 - 06:02 PM Post #9 |
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hehe.. it is, isn't it?Your post really surprised me there, Bassik! (good stuff) the Christmas spirit seeping in your veins, eh? Anyway, thanks for the input people. I'm locking this one, cause it's just not worth investing more time in. Have a good Christmas and I hope you all enjoy these few days of relative peace in the UnderEmpire! (I know I will!)
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) and I respect honesty, even if it hurts people. You totally reacted the wrong way. You know how to react?
hehe.. it is, isn't it?
