| Clanrats, an assassin, and a cheiftain; Are better then Chosen. | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: 8th September 2004 - 10:22 PM (253 Views) | |
| Jackety | 8th September 2004 - 10:22 PM Post #1 |
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FEAR THE LEMMING!
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I just realized this. 30 clan rats (FC), a cheiftain with the Gouger, and a Hidden assassin with Weeping Blades (426 points) can beat 16 Chosen with shields (FC) (436 points.) It scares me a lot. Assassin challenges...racks up over kill... Chosen kill up to four (Lets say they kill four!), Chieftain strikes back...kills one maybe... Chosen combat res: +4 kills. Skaven: +1 Outnumber, +5 Overkill, +1 Kill basic. Skaven win. Probally send the chosen (Ld 6 now), fleeing. Said chosen are probally cut down. So everyone, next time you fight a chaos player who uses Chosen Knights (You get ranks then!), or Chosen Warriors (See above), remember this: You CAN beat the crap out of them! |
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| Sammy the Squid | 8th September 2004 - 11:19 PM Post #2 |
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How do you get +5 for overkill??? |
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"If the squidman can't do it, no one can!!" Wins/Losses/Draws Skaven Clan Rattenkrieg - 108/58/20 Dark Elves - 44/14/8 Hochland Empire - 33/14/4 Malkavian Vampires - 23/22/4 Beastmen - 50/25/2 Have not completed a Painting Vow since July 07!! | |
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| Jackety | 8th September 2004 - 11:23 PM Post #3 |
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3 attacks, hitting on 3s and wounding on threes. Chance makes him fail one, maybe two. You multiply each wound into D3 wounds. Thats 3-9 over kill, just five is the highest, so...yeah. |
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| Agriant | 8th September 2004 - 11:40 PM Post #4 |
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What if they refuse the challenge, there goes the overkill bonus...wait, does Chaos have to accept challenges? |
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| Jackety | 9th September 2004 - 12:04 AM Post #5 |
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FEAR THE LEMMING!
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They don't know he has weeping blades. If you get lucky, he won't know he has 3 attacks at WS6... And if they do refuse... *Realizes that would be 8 attacks.* You're screwed. |
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| Kraven Tailblade | 9th September 2004 - 01:27 AM Post #6 |
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Loyal servant of the Great Horned One
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Weeping blades won't work like that in a challenge. Multiple woud hits are calculated differently to prevent just such a thing.Won't Chosen (on foot) have like a 2+ armor save? Don't they have 2 attacks each? I think Knights are ST5. Khorne has frenzy too. It's possible to win like yo say,but hardly easy. Have a fully ranked unit and flank them to take away the Chosen's ranks. If that unit of Chosen Knights hits the Clanrats flank.......10+ ST5 attacks.... |
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Warlord Kraven Tailblade " Life is cheap. Yours is worthless. " May the Great Horned One bless you!! | |
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| Jackety | 9th September 2004 - 01:40 AM Post #7 |
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FEAR THE LEMMING!
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How would Weeping Blades not work like that in a challenge? Also, I meant if they charged you're front. If 3 chosen knights charged your flank, you're dead. Heck, if any amount of Chaos Troops numbering over 5 US charged the flank, you are dead. Marauder troops are the exception. |
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| Sammy the Squid | 9th September 2004 - 03:39 AM Post #8 |
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Doesnt matter if its chaos or not! If Skaven are charged in the flank, your usually stuffed... |
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"If the squidman can't do it, no one can!!" Wins/Losses/Draws Skaven Clan Rattenkrieg - 108/58/20 Dark Elves - 44/14/8 Hochland Empire - 33/14/4 Malkavian Vampires - 23/22/4 Beastmen - 50/25/2 Have not completed a Painting Vow since July 07!! | |
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| Kraven Tailblade | 9th September 2004 - 06:17 AM Post #9 |
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Loyal servant of the Great Horned One
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Ok, my mistake. I just saw the part of 3-9 overkill,not the +5 maximum. Sorry. You're counting on a Hero vs. Champion challenge. Big Whoop! I think anybody(almost) can have a Hero beat a Champ. But won't Chosen have 2+ save? So he'll still get 4+ vs. Weeping blade,half your wounding hits won't get thru. |
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Warlord Kraven Tailblade " Life is cheap. Yours is worthless. " May the Great Horned One bless you!! | |
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| Jackety | 9th September 2004 - 08:34 PM Post #10 |
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FEAR THE LEMMING!
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Thats where luck comes in. If you're known for failing important combats, DO NOT TRY THIS IDEA! |
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