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Tactics for battle against Beastmen; I have never played against them.
Topic Started: 20th August 2004 - 08:42 PM (848 Views)
Sammy the Squid
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Good luck!
BTW, Im fighting beats this weekend aswell... Last time I fought him I won, but this time he has even more magic... 11 power dice and 7 dispel??? How do I beat that???
"If the squidman can't do it, no one can!!"

Wins/Losses/Draws

Skaven Clan Rattenkrieg - 108/58/20
Dark Elves - 44/14/8
Hochland Empire - 33/14/4
Malkavian Vampires - 23/22/4
Beastmen - 50/25/2

Have not completed a Painting Vow since July 07!!
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tate1307
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wow 11 power dice! Thats crazy. And with 7 dispell there is no way you could take that out unless you had a Seer on a bell and 3 warlocks of your own with the eye of the horned rat (so you would have 13-15 power and 7 dispell. . .wow thats kinda cool).

However, I say go low magic for sure with just one scroll caddy maybe costing you only 95 pts. The Ring of Darkness gives MR 1 so consider that. Also the Umbranner protects against magical S3 and 4 missiles as well (never played beasts so dont know if that matters) so maybe that too. Also go for some assassins to take out mages so you can breathe easier. Sounds like a crazy game, have fun with it.
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Jackety
FEAR THE LEMMING!
Oh, thats right.
Before you go any further.
Beasts can use Daemons and Chaos.
Just thought I might say that.
'Cause that unexcepted Exalted Champion with the Sword of Striking and a enchanted shield can be a real son of a...
You get my point.
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Sammy the Squid
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First of all, cant you only have 1 Eye of the Horned Rat per army?
Also, I know he is only fielding Beasts, no mortals or daemons.

It might be interesting to go for full-magic, just to see the look on his face, and what a game it would be!!!!! 7 Mages on the field and then theres the bound spells aswell!!!!
I was though thinking of fielding just a grey seer and warlock, but they might be a bit useless facing that many dispel (last time I fought them, I got 2 spells off in the entire game!!!) BUt with no magic, it means that Im gunna get masacred by it!
On the other hand, a Warlord might be more worthwhile, kitted out for combat. But he does have a shaggoth....

Oh, BTW, can Assassins target characters in units? coz he hides his shamans in hid beastheards...
"If the squidman can't do it, no one can!!"

Wins/Losses/Draws

Skaven Clan Rattenkrieg - 108/58/20
Dark Elves - 44/14/8
Hochland Empire - 33/14/4
Malkavian Vampires - 23/22/4
Beastmen - 50/25/2

Have not completed a Painting Vow since July 07!!
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Decker_cky
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Don't hero's in units of 5+ get the "look out sir" roll? Even vs. WLC and regular canons.


yes

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Can't the Best hero be given the mark undivided and join the Herd? Doesn't the reroll work on the unit if he leads it?


no, he can reroll psychology, not the unit
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Jackety
FEAR THE LEMMING!
Actually...
Heroes of the Mark of Chaos Undivided can join units of ONLY the Mark of Chaos undivided...
Simply put, he's waiting meat unless hes got Beasigors.
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Kraven Tailblade
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Hmmm.....
The guy said the Herd could use the Heroes Mark reroll. I took him at his word and assumed he knows is own army rules. He's honest though,so i think its a simple mistake/confusion on his part.
He also thought Screamers could hit a unit(fly-by attack) in C-C with another unit. I straightened him out on that. No way.
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Jackety
FEAR THE LEMMING!
In the army books word:
Characters can only join units with the same mark.

So, theoretically, you could join the two, but not gain the benefits.
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Kraven Tailblade
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I'm sure you're right Jackety. But there comes a point where you have to assume(hope) your opponent knows his army and is being honest. It'll be a long game if you ask to see every rule in the army book.
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Sammy the Squid
Aug 23 2004, 09:01 PM
Oh, BTW, can Assassins target characters in units? coz he hides his shamans in hid beastheards...

since no one answer this, my understanding of it, was you had to do a hero challenge before you can target them. but then does he get the look out sir thing i dont remember.
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Aug 24 2004, 11:50 AM
Sammy the Squid
Aug 23 2004, 09:01 PM
Oh, BTW, can Assassins target characters in units? coz he hides his shamans in hid beastheards...

since no one answer this, my understanding of it, was you had to do a hero challenge before you can target them. but then does he get the look out sir thing i dont remember.

you can just focus your attacks on a character if you want to, so you don't need a challenge. Need to be in base to base contact then though. Oh, and no look out sir in combat.
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Sammy the Squid
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I know this is cheesy indeed, but Ive made an army that can Outmagic his 11-power-dice army! I have 14(15) power dice, 7 warpstone tokens, +1 to dispel all rolls and a power stone! All my characters are mages, and I have Screaming Bell, WLC and 10 Jezzails! With all this, I still had 148 modle sin the army!!! I doubt Ill sue it though... though Id love to beat his beasts, I doubt If I want to do it this way... BUt the magic phases could be fun!
"If the squidman can't do it, no one can!!"

Wins/Losses/Draws

Skaven Clan Rattenkrieg - 108/58/20
Dark Elves - 44/14/8
Hochland Empire - 33/14/4
Malkavian Vampires - 23/22/4
Beastmen - 50/25/2

Have not completed a Painting Vow since July 07!!
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Jackety
FEAR THE LEMMING!
Yep. With some bad luck, you'll miscast every turn and always roll double 6's and die. >.>
That would suck.
Almost as much as my chaos warriors...
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Sammy the Squid
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What did your chaos warriors do?
"If the squidman can't do it, no one can!!"

Wins/Losses/Draws

Skaven Clan Rattenkrieg - 108/58/20
Dark Elves - 44/14/8
Hochland Empire - 33/14/4
Malkavian Vampires - 23/22/4
Beastmen - 50/25/2

Have not completed a Painting Vow since July 07!!
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Rakk RazorTongue
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I'd guess that they screwed up. :rolleyes:
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