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Help me choose: Eshin or Normal skaven.; Battle against High Elfs
Topic Started: 14th August 2004 - 03:13 PM (418 Views)
WolfBlade
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You may have seen my normal skaven list agains my HE opponent before. But now I maybe want to try out the eshin list against him. For the ones who did'nt sawe the last topic:

Me opponent knows warhammer since it 2nd edition. And stoped with it for some time. Now his back, and battles for 2 months again. Tommorow (sunday0 I will have a battle against him. 1k, en this is what I thin/know his gonna deploy:

1 LVL 2 mage
1 Commander (BSB, with some magic banner i Think)

16 Archers
5 Silverhlems (first of something)

1-2 RBT's

As you see: less models, deffensive style. Now what sould I take? Eshin or Normal skaven? I never played all eshin. But here are my list:

First the eshin one:

Assasin; smoke bombs; blade of black fury
Eshin sorcerer; lvl2; dispel scroll; eye of the horned rat

13 Nightrunners (leader, 2nd hand wepaon) cool numer ;)
13 Nightrunners (leader, 2nd hand wepaon)
3 ratswarms

6 Gutter runners (tunneling team)
9 Gutter runners (black skaven, poisened hand weapons)

10 poisened wind globadiers


The normal list:

warlock engineer (all stuff except pistol, dispel scroll, storm daemon)
warlock engineer (all stuff except pistol, dispel scroll)

30 clanrats (full command, ratling gun)
30 slaves (musican)
3 Rat swarms

9 Jezzials
8 Gutter runners (tunneleing team, poisened hand weapons)
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warskrat of clan plaguos
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eshin because you can skitterleap the assassin near the elf mage and kill him and shoot a few throwing stars at the archers before skitterleaping him out of there and the tunneling teams should finnish of the archers provided that they survive the tunnel :lol: and the night runner should be able to win the combats at a guess. :ph43r: :ph43r: :ph43r:

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Thrask Vilepaw
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skitterleap only effects people within 12 of you so you cant really get him back. But kill the commander and they may run away.
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Thrask, for being such a nice squiggly thing!
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WolfBlade
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so I should Take skitterleap?

I had the same idea about the mage archeers and RBT with the skitterleap assasin and gutter team. Then wile doing that the ratswarms hold the silverhelms for 1-2 turns. And then all my forces 9who survived) attack them in rear flank tc.
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Thrask Vilepaw
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well eshin sorcerors have only one spell which is.... skitterleap.
If you cant decide play two games... i personally would go for the warlock engineer list as i like engineers too much.
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WolfBlade
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I meant eshin with skitterleap :P I was thinkin of skitterleap so I typt the wrong word (stupid me) Bt, even if his Lvl2, he only knows skitterleap? to bad...
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WolfBlade
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I chaged the list a bit. Now i now skitterleap is his only spell eye of teh hroned rat becomes the re-roll amulet. Now I have another I CAN do. Its taking another sorcerer (no equip, nog lvl2) just to have 2 chances of skitterleap? Then i take away the leaders of the nigh tunners and take 1-2 Gutter runners away.
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warskrat of clan plaguos
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u should kill all the elves easily now
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warskrat of clan plaguos
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skitterleap rocks
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NeekNeek
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If you do the Eshin list, Bands of Power isn't a bad item at all. Most people will quickly recognize it as a threat and use at least 1 dispel die against it. This means more of a chance to get off a Skitterleap.

All of my opponents realize how much of a threat Skitterleap is now, and refuse to let it through if possible.

Don't forget about that Warpstone... the additional die is well worth it once the dispel scrolls are gone.
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96SS
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i think your eshin list would decimate him. ucod limits his rbts, then tunnel team pops up by them and kills them, and your assasin kills mage. hes pretty much done for.
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tate1307
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For 1k pts if you only use one sorcerer, I dont upgrade him to level two. saves 35 pts and you still get to use 2 dice for skitterleap. The BoP is also good to draw out dice as was stated before. I would take out the nightleaders to save 20 pts as well, and I like using units of 9 NR but thats me.
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Warlord Skavek
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Use normal Skaven because you can choose any Clan's people so you'll have a variety
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Kill-Kill
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If you play Eshin don't give your assassin blade of black fury. It costs 50pts takes away your poison and adds 1 attack
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Ghaundan Zauviir
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skitterleap only effects people within 12 of you so you cant really get him back. But kill the commander and they may run away.


Yes but your sorcerer is scout and you can easly put him near your assassin. With cover of darknes he should be in dangerus situation.

Drop poison wind globadiers and take triad - they are better in this army IMO.

And I agree with Kill-Kill - Blade of Black Furry is waste of points. Take Weeping Blade or Warpstone Stars or Warpstone Amulet and Bands of Power.
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