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| phordicus | 11th August 2004 - 01:07 PM Post #1 | ||
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it's got to be a record. in one post alone a member (who actually once wanted to join the Co13) got three major rules completely ass-backwards. not only does this lead to more players getting it wrong, it also contributes to any bad reputation the skaven have for being lame, cheesy, or overpowered. here's some simple steps to becoming a good player: 1. read the rulebooks 2. there is no step 2 3. see #1 wow. easy, huh. it's all well and good (and necessary) to talk about the things the rulebooks aren't clear on, but we've got way too many people giving out totally wrong information as though they don't even own the freakin books. |
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| Skaskrit Venomclaw | 11th August 2004 - 01:21 PM Post #2 | ||
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To some extent, yes. But there are a lot of rules, and people should be allowed some slack. Not everybody has a perfect memory, and some things are easy to confuse. it is also very easy to miss a little rule completely. I've played Warhammer for seven years now, and just last month I discovered a rule I had managed to miss all that time. (Using dispel scrolls ends spells remaining in play.) If people get a rule wrong, others can correct them and point to them to the right place in the rulebook. It's one of the things that is great about the internet. Messageboards like this one allow you to discover you and all your friends have been using a rule wrong the whole time. Now, I'm not sure what post you are referring to, but I'd say complaints are only justified when people consistently get a rule wrong and refuse to look it up in the rulebook. |
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| Stinkhair | 11th August 2004 - 07:06 PM Post #3 | ||
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Dabbling GM. Clanrat loon. 6th Edition Aficionado. Bitter.
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uh, if they're english, rulebooks are £25.... for a 15 yr old, even with a paper round >a la me< thats a tad expensive (hell, for that much i can get 20 clanrats a wft and the chieftain i need so badly......) i don't know how much they are in the states, but betewwn all the whfb people i know in my town, there are TWO rulebooks (one is mine, woot....now im poor....) between about ten people....so not everyone (except from me an giles) knows the rules off by heart....(and i don't know them all....but i keep my rulebook close when im posting on here...) anyways, cut the guy some slack, okay, if he gets a basic rule TERRIBLY wrong, then you can get angry, but if he doesn't know the roll needed to save against a strength 5 hit with heavy armour, a shield and hand weapon, then they can be excused... *looks at rulebook* you need a five plus to save against that hit..... neek-neek... |
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| Verminous Fang | 11th August 2004 - 07:09 PM Post #4 | ||
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I don't think that he expects everybody to know every rule. But if you don't have a rule book handy when answering people's questions, maybe you shouldn't. I think that in the future, we should ask that everyone posting a response to rules help should include a page number. It will slow down the process of getting answers, but slow help is better than wrong help. |
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| grendel23 | 11th August 2004 - 07:45 PM Post #5 | ||
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i agree, i have rules for warhammer, 40k, warmaster and others vying for supremacy. i know i sometimes answer rules that have been outdated for 10 years[push back]. having the book nearby is a good thing. | ||
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| strkeetdot | 11th August 2004 - 07:47 PM Post #6 | ||
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That's the best Idea I have heard! Actually to keep us uot of trouble with GW we should ask people to post just the page number of the rule in question |
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| Nilax | 11th August 2004 - 08:06 PM Post #7 | ||
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Well I'm not GW, but if I were them, I don't see why I would care if an independant website posted a rule out of the rulebook. You see, GWs motivation for protecting their "intellectual property" is entirely economical. They don't want people posting things that they would otherwise have to pay to get ahold of. Now, if we go around giving the complete rules for a character or something that is featured in a citadel journal or army book, thats one thing, but I doubt we need to worry about rules clarifications. Telling someone what happens in situation X given the rules of the game is not infringing on intellectual property, nor is it harming GW's sales of rulebooks...at least not any more than me saying "Raskalnikov tends to shift between nihilism and idealism" harms sales of Crime and Punishment (nor could any company silence me from doing so). Heck, the ruleboyz will tell you this stuff for free. |
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| phordicus | 11th August 2004 - 11:45 PM Post #8 | ||
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yet again, vfang and i are on the same page, no pun intended. as far as the cost goes... i'm really sorry if the books are too expensive for everyone to buy, but that's no excuse for spreading misinformation. if you're one of them, just be quiet and don't answer with an uninformed guess. in the same vein, don't buy any more models until you get the books. my complaint is directed towards two groups: those who state blatantly wrong rules, and those who ask questions that are clearly answered by the rules. the reasons for people doing those things are several, possibly including no access to a rulebook and the desire to post a reply and appear knowledgeable. the first is somewhat forgiveable; the second one is not. |
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