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Help (versus VC); help needed
Topic Started: 5th August 2004 - 12:24 PM (260 Views)
Darkwolf
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well iam up with a big very big problem

what can i do about

a vc army with

2 units of black knights ( 1 one with blood dragon mega combat vampire ) ( and some fancy banner so they will alwas hits on 3+ )
1 block of grave guard
2 units of 6 or 12 wolfes
3 necromancers ( i think )
and a few bats

his plan is tho deploy the wolfes in front of the black knight so i need to pour in much fire power ( usally i kill al the wolfes but no black knights )
then in his second turn he charges kills about 7-12 rats and i flee

while he stil summens units of skeletons
and his heavy lord is killing slowly all of my units


what can i do about this
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Skaven Lord Vinshqueek
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Against knights you should use loads of plague censer bearers, or 2 ratling guns

Stormvermin vs. grave guard works well enough... (banner of the swarm could be handy!)

Against those wolfies, ratlings (again) or jezzails

Well, against necromancers you just need heavy magic defence or some tunnel runner teams :P

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Shiva
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If I were you

1) get tunnel teams to cause trouble behind his black knights
2) get both a BSB and a warlord in your clanrat unit that is going to be charged by the knights
3) give the BSB the war banner.
4) deploy a unit of jezzails on your flank (so that if you line breaks you can shoot at his knights for a turn or two)
5) Either have 2 warlocks with dispel scrolls or have two assassins (scouting and just running around his army)
6) If that doesn't work yell CHEESE!
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WolfBlade
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claim some higher terrain for your jezzials! Then you can shoot at the BK without detsroying the wolves. Then Down the hill, some ratling to destroy his wolves (1-2 turn an their gone if you take 2), when their dead, continue on the BK themselve! And as a bonus a 25 strong Plage Monk unit with 7-9 Censer Bearers. If that vampire if the general, focus all on that unit. Hoping to detsroy it, and make the rest of his army weaker, and weaker....

You must invest some points but you got 3 (or 4) units that really kick as his BK. And when the vampire (general) is dead...
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OutsiderDarkwolf
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:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: many thx
but usally he is in turn 2 in charge rang ( or he has charged )


and about the strong units
he usally breaks them in 1 round of cc
he does a lot of kills i need to do a ld check on ld 2
and i run a way

so i came up with this
put a block of slaves in front of him then make him overrun en then with a lot and i mean a lot pwg en magic trowing at his @ss


but does any1 know how the stop the vc bc ( i though of a wl cannon and hope on a S7 hit with enough range a a bit luck to kill it



but cheesy
i can

8 blocks of clanrats with rateling guns en 1-2 mages 1 bsb en a lot of jezzails
but that woul'nd be fun
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To stop those BK, force them to charge 3-4 rat swarms. Belive me, he will me 2-3 turns bussy killing them. And underwile, you got time to get to his flanks. And shoot some good stuff with your ratling gun, standing behind the ratswarms (who cares you hits some of your own?)
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Deathmaster Mik
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Aug 5 2004, 06:37 PM
And shoot some good stuff with your ratling gun, standing behind the ratswarms (who cares you hits some of your own?)

As long as the chances of you shooting the last rat-swarm base to kingdom-come is very small. You should always make sure the opponent kills them off, to delay them one more round.

(editted topic name slightly)

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grendel23
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use the eshin list! they tear the undead to shreds.
i took out a blood dragon uberlord in one turn a few weeks back. skitterlept my master assassin into hth, used the bands of power and weeping blade to slice and dice. after that, the army falls to pieces.
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tate1307
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I say for sure take an assassin, and use rattling guns instead of WFT. No grey seer, just two warlocks as scroll caddies. Arm your assassin with warpstone stars or the weeping blade depending on who you want to kill, the general in cc or the three necromancers from a distance. Dont forget smoke in case you get unlucky once.
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Sammy the Squid
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Back to retirement!

Now that VC army is CHEESEY!!!!!! and very power gaming as well! Good luck beating him, I like to see cheesey armies go down. Use ratlings, WFT's on them. Oh, and PWG's against the knights. Tie them up with slaves.
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