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magic sword and shield, extra +1 save?
Topic Started: 13th July 2004 - 06:31 PM (702 Views)
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The enchanted shield is the only piece of magical armour that can be comnined with other magic armour and still get its benefits. On top of that, all magical shields gain the +1 save as LONG AS the bearer only is using a hand weapon.
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No... as simple as that. Only light armour / heavy armour and shield give the +1 for handweapon and shield, magic armour or shields NOT!


Not quite. Wearing magical armour does not affect the handweapon/shield bonus at all.

Warpstone armour + shield + handweapon = 2+ save in combat, not 3+.

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On top of that, all magical shields gain the +1 save as LONG AS the bearer only is using a hand weapon.


No. You only get the bonus if both shield and weapon are mundane.

Enchanted shield + hand weapon = 5+ save in combat, not 4+.
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Skaskrit Venomclaw
Jul 13 2004, 07:33 PM
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No... as simple as that. Only light armour / heavy armour and shield give the +1 for handweapon and shield, magic armour or shields NOT!


Not quite. Wearing magical armour does not affect the handweapon/shield bonus at all.

Warpstone armour + shield + handweapon = 2+ save in combat, not 3+.

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who needs armour when you can get a 4+ ward for a measly 25 pts?! :D

However, skaskrit is correct, only mundane weapon+shield confers the bonus ;)
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Wow, I've been doing this wrong!

So if I armed my chieftain with heavy armor, Desolate Blade, and Enchanted Shield, I will have a 3+ and not a 2+ save in close combat?
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yes, because the desolate blade is not a hand weapon.
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So what is a Desolate Blade? Is it a magical weapon and not a hand wepaon? Isn't it basically a magical hand weapon?

I know there's an overwhelming number of people who know this rule, and I believe you, but where exactly in the rulebook does it explain this? I need to show this to my friends and I can't seem to find it anywhere.

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the rule is you cant combine magical and mudane items for bonuses. however, i have a question about the armor involved. can you use the normal hw+shield for +1 save with magic armor (warpstone armor)? or is it just light or heavy armor?
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The parry bonus makes no reference at all to armor, so I would say that magical armor has nothing to do with it. So, in short, yes, if you have magic armor, but mundane hwep and shield, you still get the +1 bonus.
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so say, for example warpstone armor + hw + shield is good for a 2+ armor save?
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Yes. I used precisely that example on the previous page.
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agh! I'm lossing my mind!

I apologize, I seem to have a nack for reading things then repeating exactly what they say in my own post
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Skaskrit Venomclaw
Jul 15 2004, 05:05 PM
Yes. I used precisely that example on the previous page.

yeah but i wsnt quite clear on that, so i asked again



EDIT: wait, never mind, im just a dumbass...
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model on foot, mundane hand weapon, mundane shield. that gives you the parry bonus in combat. armor is irrelevant.

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