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Topic Started: 13th July 2004 - 07:44 AM (725 Views)
Snikkit
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key word is should, you don't have to, but it does cause arguments :P , but I don't really like any of them, I like Pestlins and the Warlock Master, but wouldn't want to get them.....
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Ratling
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I never use the rare slots because I play moulder ;D


Ah...well I guess that would make sense. ;)
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Skaven Lord Vinshqueek
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Jul 13 2004, 02:44 AM
Among my friends, a clan Skyre army is considered possibly one of the best Broken Armies in the game and it's SOOOO easy to win with them. I've considered Skyre for how cool they are, however, if everyone's so -bleh- about it, is there really a point? Could someone explain why someone might think such things and then tell me why it isn't true..? :(

The Skaven list can be mis-used in a terrible way indeed... I've even seen armies with a whopping 40 (!!!) jezzails. Believe me, expensive units like knights will be doomed. It is not the invincible army, it is only the problem that it is horrible loads of shooting.

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40 jezzails, holy crap. Did you watch this battle or was it on display.
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phordicus
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40 jezzails, 4 special slots so no gutter runners, no monks, no censer bearers.

for the same points approx, a DE can field 4 rbt and 30 rxb and still have all their special slots.

let's say range is 20" vs T3 units with a 5+ save, typical infantry.

jezzails, 40 shots, 14 hits, 12 wounds, no save.
DE battery, 24 rbt shots, 16 hits, 11 wounds, no save.
plus 60 rbx shots, 20 hits, 10 wounds, 4 saves.

skaven 12 kills, DE 21.

funny how no one would ever come near claiming that DE setup was cheesy.

of course, the jezzails would increase in effectiveness vs higher T or better armored troops.
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Skaven Lord Vinshqueek
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Jul 14 2004, 04:29 AM
40 jezzails, holy crap. Did you watch this battle or was it on display.

Nopez,
never saw it (thank god)...

I did see a battle with someone having 36 jezzails, 2 warp-lightning cannons, 1 grey seer on screaming bell, I believe 1 warlock could be two and the rest was clanrats with ratling guns. A horrible army which won the tournament... but no-one liked to be against it...

Jezzails are great vs. high armoured troops... like, for instance, knights or chaos warriors. Ratlings can do way more damage, but are for support.

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phordicus
Jul 14 2004, 09:55 PM
T3 units with a 5+ save, typical infantry.

Ahh thats where your assumpations fall apart the the typical soldier where i play is ussually T3 1+sv or T4 2+sv.

Most people I know hate taking infantry they think there slow, die easy and do nothing.
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Hmm.. the crappiest skyre-army I saw in a tournament was 1250 points.

2x Warlock Engineer (Stormdeamon, warpscroll)
3x clanrats + ratling gun
7 (I think) poison wind globadirs
8x jezzails
8x jezzails
1x WLC


But the army didnt win the tournament.. wasnt even in the upper third. More balanced skaven armies did much better.
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Most people I know hate taking infantry they think there slow, die easy and do nothing.


Do they win a lot of their battles? Isn’t infantry supposed to make up the majority of the army?
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Matt
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What Skaven Lord Vinshqueek just mentioned was what I was getting at in my earlier post!

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Saint Anger
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It also says the lists are not playtested and potentially unbalanced.


I'm potentially unballenced, but i dont have to ask my oppents permision if i can play :P
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Kraven Tailblade
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Phordicus ,you are TOTALLY right!!
Jezzails are good,but can be countered, pluss they're a special choice.
DE and the other Elves have the potential for alot more shooting than Skaven/Skyre.
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