| Stormvermin.Good or bad?; Is Stormvermin a useful unit in battle? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: 29th June 2004 - 05:54 PM (1,176 Views) | |
| typo | 30th June 2004 - 05:41 PM Post #16 |
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Well, as far as skaven go i think that stormvermin are probably the best unit in the list. With the higher initiative and strength as well as a decent save, they can take most things on. Add a character with some nasty items and the warbanner and this unit will win with no kills lots of the time. In other words, they are well worth their points cost. |
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| Skitter | 30th June 2004 - 06:58 PM Post #17 |
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I'll always bring Stormvermin. My prefered method is to put my Warlord into them, and field 19 with a full command and either the Umbranner or the War Banner. I will ALWAYS take shields, and I wish that you could get rid of the Halberds, and I never use them. My tactic is to get into combat, let my Warlord do some massive wounds, my guys do a wound or two. Then with the 3+ Armor save, I don't lose any wounds, and then with 3 ranks, out number, a banner, plus a few wounds caused, with not many wounds taken, I can usually win combat. And if I throw in my BSB with the Sacred Standard of the Horned Rat, with outnumber, they will run away. I feel that the Stormvermin are an important part of my army. And I don't leave home with them! |
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| Cypher19 | 30th June 2004 - 09:37 PM Post #18 |
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I do agree that halberds should be an upgrade, and not mandidtory for them. Though what would the moddles be without halberds?
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| typo | 30th June 2004 - 10:31 PM Post #19 |
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I dont know, mandatory halberds doesnt sound bad, i mean you still have the option of not using them. |
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| Baraduribagugar | 2nd July 2004 - 07:53 PM Post #20 |
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I use stormvermin regiment of 30 and I love them! |
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| iigubiigu | 4th July 2004 - 04:06 PM Post #21 |
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I think that Storm vermins arent that good! They r too expensive (in points cost)! Plague swarms are much better and much cheaper! |
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| Dark Angel | 4th July 2004 - 05:51 PM Post #22 |
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Point cost? Let me get this strait... You can field all the clanrats you can but for 2 point each you cant spend that mutch on stormvermin, but when there clan rats GET MORE! lol Im just saying lol I think is funny lol. |
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| el rubmano | 4th July 2004 - 10:54 PM Post #23 |
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i agree. stormvermin cost too much to be effective, if you want a big bad unit get yourself some plague monks with add. hand weapons for the same price and they can carry a magic banner too. Even if you take the cheap route with clanrats you can add a chieftain and make him battle standard bearer - you'll win just as much combats as with stormvermin. |
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| Cypher19 | 4th July 2004 - 11:11 PM Post #24 |
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save of sv(with shields) > clan rat ws of SV> clanrat ld of SV> clan rat I of SV> clan rat if your telling me those don't effect combat much, I dont know what will. |
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| gorod | 4th July 2004 - 11:51 PM Post #25 |
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hehehe tho I've never used sv before, I'd really like to say "I'm a rat with a 3+ armor save nah nah" Also the str 4 (if you wanna use halbreds) is quite the advantage up against things like.....everything. I don't think I'll use them in 2k but over that more than likely
unfortunatly their ld is still the same as a CR.. If it was higher, then for sure sv all the way! |
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| Darkwolf | 5th July 2004 - 09:55 AM Post #26 |
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maybe a strange question but what if you take a unit of 30 then put the outnumeberings banner on it with a bsb and your assassin/some other guy who can slay much death then give that guy the lanquisher zword and some armour then when you get charged you can still win |
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| Verminous Fang | 5th July 2004 - 10:14 AM Post #27 |
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Well, who says he'll charge you? If your unit panics due to shooting, then your uber characters don't even get a chance to fight. If you can effectively screen them , go for it. |
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| Ponge | 5th July 2004 - 06:29 PM Post #28 |
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I just joined this forum and here's my oppinion , i use to fight with stormvermin but then when it occured to my that skaven is a horde army and needs to be a horde stormvermin arent that good , they cost more , they arent THAT good , give me a ice unit of monks instead... theyr just clan rats with a ws more i mean... when ur vsing a army like wood elves its so much better to go in horde , even when u wield umbranner it will still hurt when u cant even get ur stormvermin into battle or they run away , give me the monks atleast they dont run when they get shot ( if they still have frenzy that is ) |
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| el rubmano | 5th July 2004 - 10:30 PM Post #29 |
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okay, and how many clanrats can you field for that price? I think 8 is over the top, and then you'd even give them shields... It doesn't really matter if they can kill more, because i've never really seen rats kill a lot - you need to get your numbers out there, that's what counts. |
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| Kill-Kill | 6th July 2004 - 01:46 AM Post #30 |
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Sorta change the subject, but who here besides me likes the old models better?
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