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Poppies on shirts; This doesn't sit well with me at all
Topic Started: Oct 29 2008, 04:29 PM (2,981 Views)
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Keving
Nov 14 2008, 10:09 PM
Henke
Nov 14 2008, 12:57 AM
desachi
Nov 14 2008, 11:32 AM


I think a lot of it is rolled into a general dissatisfaction of the way things are going off the park and people just aren't happy about it. At the end of the day, no one likes being treated like a mushroom (well most people don't) and the board have miscalculated if they think they can change the nature of the support overnight.

It will never be allowed to happen. What will happen though, is a greater and greater disenfranchisement of the support. More protests. More ejections. A big fuck off rip down the middle of the support, with the traditionalists on one side and your KDS posting wanker-types on the other.

Christ they are throwing folk out for things from peaceful protest to the use of the word hun. :angry:

John Ried has basically taken his fascist template that he wanted for the UK as a whole and implemented it at the club he supposedly loves.

I hate to sound like a grumpy bastard, but I have found myself reminiscing for the dark old days of the 90's! :yikes:

The team may have been pish, we were humiliated on a regular basis, but you know what?

At least the club was still ours!

Give me the old jungle, with it's constant threat of casual violence, Rebel tunes being sung with gusto and pish up to your knees, and day of the week.

You can stick Corporate Celtic PLC up her arse, you sell out, black-shirted, jack-booted, right wing, Nazi, fascist cunt.

And to think this guy was a Stalinist when he was at Uni. I am ashamed to have shared a University with this waste of oxygen.

What a post. Well done that man. Stirling Uni has produced a guid one!!!!

Cheers mate! :thumbs.up:
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Nov 14 2008, 12:03 PM
The only things that remain "Celtic" are the fans and the hoops we play in.

Sadly, the rest of the club is following the Prawn Sandwich Brigade and is falling into line with every instruction /rule from Uefa and the SPL Committee.

I have no doubt that if Uefa asked us to wear a red hand or a union jack on the shirt label we would comply.

We have always been a club proud to be different, but welcoming to all sections of society, regardless of colour creed or religion, but now, we close our doors to discussion and accept all forthcoming , afraid to stand up for the last 120 years of history and tradition?

We may be winning the league, but the Celtic I know is deeply embedded in the vaults of a different Celtic Park.

I don`t want to be a Man Utd. I pride myself every day in the belief that I support a cause, a tolerant club appealing to the masses. Mr Desmond and John Reid are far far from my ideal custodians of the club I love.

Wether it`s the poppy debate, or the Irish songs, the club has persecuted ordinary people who have their own beliefs simply because it is not the view of two or three Board members. Democracy is a two vote rule at Celtic Park nowadays.

Never mind the players in January. We need to be taken on by people who want to see Celtic succeed on the park, but more importantly in my eyes, stand up for the fans, for the honour of the days gone and to garauntee the identity of the future.

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Celtic fans have their say

FANS at Glasgow Celtic FC have been in revolt recently against the decision by the club’s hierarchy to go along with the Scottish Premier League’s instruction for all SPL clubs to wear an embroidered red poppy to honour the British armed forces on the shirts of all sides competing on the weekend of 8 November.

The Celtic supporters were protesting against the compulsory nature of the SPL’s 'advice’ and contend that the red poppy, rather than being a symbol of commemoration, peace and reconciliation, is actually a propaganda tool used by the British Army to bolster support for its wars in countries like Ireland, Iraq and Afghanistan. Thousands of leaflets were distributed at a recent home game and a walk-out during the match and a 500-strong protest at Celtic’s front gate have seen the club retaliate by taking further punitive measures against the rebels.
An Phoblacht spoke exclusively to one of the protest organisers, ‘SL’.

An Phoblacht: Why did you organise the protest at the Motherwell game?
SL: A great many Celtic fans in Scotland, Ireland and further afield were very unhappy that Celtic FC as an institution should be throwing its weight behind the PoppyScotland Appeal and blindly following the SPL’s instructions for the compulsory wearing of poppies on the shirts of all SPL sides and for the observance of a minute’s silence at all SPL matches last weekend.
After deliberating over what form the protest should take, the three groups involved – TAL Fanzine, Green Brigade and local republican support group Cairde na hÉireann  – under the umbrella of Celts Against Imperialism, decided to leaflet all sides of the stadium before the match against Motherwell.
Despite the often-repeated lies of the Scottish media, at no time did we call for the minute’s applause (or minute’s silence as we originally expected) to be disrupted.
Our position regarding the poppy was clearly outlined in the flyer: that our protest was not against individuals that wear the poppy, nor did we mean any disrespect to any of those who lost fathers, grandfathers and great-grandfathers in two world wars. However, we believe the red poppy to be a symbol purely associated with the British military which is today effectively being used as a propaganda tool by the British Government to bolster support for its illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
That a club like Celtic should simply go along with this, apparently oblivious to the many fans in Ireland who have suffered directly at the hands of the British Army, is testament to the type of politically arrogant people that are now in control of our club.

What did the protest entail?
The walk out on the 10-minute mark attracted the greatest attention in the media and has now prompted Celtic into witch-hunt mode. Several hundred supporters walked out of the stadium after 10 minutes play to a mixture of jeers and applause. Around 500 gathered at the Walfrid Statue and spent the next 50-60 minutes chanting slogans against the board, Celtic Chairman John Reid and the British Army.
There were various forms of protest throughout the day. We were told that Celtic has not had so many latecomers arrive for a normal SPL home game in many years. This suggests that many of those unhappy about the poppy being promoted and a minute’s silence or applause being implemented arrived late and did so deliberately to avoid participating in any public acknowledgement of the British Army.
A great many fans boycotted the match completely; most of the Celtic pubs on the Gallowgate did business all through the match, not normal for a home game when most of them have a couple of quiet hours until the match is over and the supporters return.

What happened at the subsequent home match on the Wednesday night against Kilmarnock?
At that match (on 12 November), approximately 32 young Celtic supporters were ejected from the area of the ground where the Green Brigade ultras normally gather. Those with season tickets had them confiscated and some were told that they were being ejected and banned from the stadium for participating in the Saturday protest, which they were informed Celtic PLC finds “unacceptable”.
Some were told that they were simply being ejected because they were “sitting in the wrong seats” – a ‘crime that hardly matters in a half-empty stadium on a cold and wet Wednesday night.
There is no doubt that this is simply a pedantic point being used purely for tactical reasons by the club because it was abundantly clear that the intended targets were the young fans of the Green Brigade who had supported the protest on Saturday.
It seems that the ‘freedom’ and ‘democracy’ that we were told was being celebrated by the club that weekend does not extend to those that have a different point of view to that of Dr John Reid and the PLC board.

What happens now?
We are discussing the possibility of taking collective legal action against the PLC board and others for the way that they bullied some of our youngest supporters out of Celtic Park.
We are also calling on all Celtic supporters in Scotland, Ireland and across the world to support our campaign to win back our club from those who are apparently now engaged in a campaign to erase our club of its culture and heritage.
These are the men who it seems would happily see Celtic become a sanitised version of Manchester United or any other Premiership club; who would wrap our club in a Union flag rather than an Irish Tricolour. It is these people above all who have deliberately sought to divide the Celtic support and who have declared war upon all dissenters.
It’s ironic that the man in charge at Celtic, Dr John Reid, started his tenure as club chairman by telling us: “At Celtic, we leave our politics at the door.” Yet Celtic has become a highly politicised club during the short reign of the current chairman and his mentor, the Irish business magnate, Dermot Desmond. Dr Reid would do well to take his own advice.


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Finally, the other side speaks. :thumbs.up:

Would have thought there would have been some sort of an attempt to see the other side of this in Scotland's media? :rolleyes: I crack me up sometimes. :pmsl:
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Thanks for posting this, Des ! :thumbs.up:
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