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| Politics and Sport; again! | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 6 2008, 11:55 AM (665 Views) | |
| buckfasthero | Oct 6 2008, 11:55 AM Post #1 |
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Celtic PLC recruited John Reid as chairman of our club in an appointment many suspect had something to do with one of DD's businesses benefitting from John Reid's push for the introduction of ID cards. Desmond has now donated £50,000 to the Conservative Party under a new scheme that allows big contributors to have several face-to-face discussions with David Cameron. All this is from the same people who are constantly lecturing the Celtic support that politics has no place in sport. Your average John (or should that be Sean) can be barred from Celtic Park for life for daring to sing a political song. Could it be that politics and sport are only allowed to mix when it benefits the capitalist interest of the PLC elite? |
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| desachi | Oct 6 2008, 01:29 PM Post #2 |
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Oh dear, oh dear. Can't say I am surprised to be honest, as it seems to be an accepted outcome that the winner of the next General Election will be David Cameron, and so he will be the one they all have to work with to get all their business done. At the end of the day, there are acceptable politics (that reinforce the status quo, and obey the "rules") and there are unacceptable ones (that will lead to change). Of course in the respect of the politics of the Celtic support, these have been successfully reclassified in the mainstream as "sectarian" which means they can all be swept under the collective "irrelevance" rug in any political debate and thereby classified as hatred. Truly sad bit is that we, the fans, add to the prestige of Messrs Desmond and Reid and their ilk, rolled out as we are when examples are required of "the greatest fans in the world." ( :rolleyes: ) :banghead: |
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In the nation of the blind the one eyed man is king. All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing HWEUCSC & Chicago CSC Buena Vista Celtic Club, Keeping the Green Flag Flying High | |
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| tigergerry | Oct 7 2008, 10:34 PM Post #3 |
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if the occurence ever happens to happen and you are passing them in the street give a little whistle to the tune of we are celtic supporters and look them in the eye as you are whistling it but dont even re-acknoledge their response up them well be here as a club and they will be history |
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| tamfaeglesca | Oct 8 2008, 12:34 AM Post #4 |
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Listen folks, I support the New York Yankees (and there is a wee bit of political drama there if you want check it out, albeit nearly 100 yrs ago) I also support the New York Giants, I support the New York Islanders hockey team, I have never ever heard a political comment from anyone who supports those teams, regarding those teams. Now on another hand we have a team in Scotland that I adore and always have, my family from 3000 miles away adore them also funny that, but it seems like our team is constantly embroiled in political affair's, and I wonder why. In this day and age when we are supposed to be getting rid of bigotry, sectarianism, racism and overall hatred, some of us on both sides seem like we are happy with the status quo. A wee country with less than 6,000,000 people where there are two major teams Celtic and Rangers seem to take over the news no matter what, I wonder why. In the words of my wee maw some years ago, when there was an election for home rule, I said to my maw "what do you think" she replied "whats the difference for only the wummin will vote, the men are too busy with Celtic and Rangers". What was Mr Burns quote about "seeing yer self" |
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| tigergerry | Oct 8 2008, 12:50 AM Post #5 |
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nae arguements on that post fae me
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| Mainser | Oct 8 2008, 08:41 AM Post #6 |
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I don't wish to seem ignorant - but what point are you trying to make? It's lost on a simpleton like me, sorry
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| tamfaeglesca | Oct 8 2008, 06:59 PM Post #7 |
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Don't sell yourself short young fella, your not that much of a "simpleton". |
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| desachi | Oct 8 2008, 08:10 PM Post #8 |
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I actually don't have a clue either, for what it is worth. :wtf?: |
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| tamfaeglesca | Oct 8 2008, 09:55 PM Post #9 |
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Did'nt expect you to have a clue being that my post was about politics in football, a simple post that you can't understand. I'm against politics in football, you on the other hand will take any and every opportunity to throw your bile, hardly a thread goe's by that you don't introduce your political "wisdom", like it is your own personal soapbox, and you accuse me of "ruining " threads which I find quite funny. There are people around the world who support Celtic who think like I do, and that is we are fed up with our team being used as a political football, there are also people in Scotland who are fed up with this Celtic and Rangers hatred when it comes to electing politicians. I hope I have explained. BTW happy Yom Kippur, I hope I did'nt just ruin this thread too
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| desachi | Oct 8 2008, 10:06 PM Post #10 |
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Serves me right for saying what was on my mind eh? :thumbs.up: Actually it is a good point, I do have a lot of trouble following both your posts and your train of thought. Not that I am losing any sleep over it or giving it much thought at all. Thanks for explaining it though. Not sure why you had to add all the personal stuff about me in your answer, I would have thought you were secure enough in your own opinion and point of view without needing to talk about me and mine. Keep dreaming so I will. I think you are right, there are lots of people who think of Celtic like you do, good luck to you all. I am sure your open view of Celtic being a "broad church" would be as charitable to those who don't share your view though, being the fair minded individual you are. Yom Kippur? I had no clue. I am happy for you. Have a great day. |
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| tamfaeglesca | Oct 8 2008, 10:37 PM Post #11 |
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When you say "mine" what did you mean? |
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| desachi | Oct 8 2008, 10:49 PM Post #12 |
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Tam, the man who knows everything is asking a question? "Mine" would refer to my opinion. I thought that would be obvious. What on earth else could it mean? Listen tam, time and time again, you personalise your responses when you either don't want to or can't respond to points made by other posters. Lately, it has been mostly me. If you want to take this line with me personally then take it to PM and I will decide whether it is worth my time responding. Otherwise, stick to discussing the issues here on the board and it will be a better place for all posters, whether they agree or disagree with the points made. It doesn't bother me when people disagree with me, at least the issues get aired and myself and others have food for thought. Minds change, and I have often changed my mind on matters when presented with well thought out ideas contrary to my own on this board. It is what makes the posters here good ones and board a good forum for different ideas. Leave the "personal" conspiracies and all the other baggage at the door and everyone will have a more pleasurable experience on the board. If you want to answer to this, PM me, and let's spare the rest of the board what seems to me to be a personal vendetta as we seem to disagree about many things. |
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| tamfaeglesca | Oct 9 2008, 02:12 AM Post #13 |
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You are wrong, what got you to this ,was it "Yom Kippur" or was it the fact that you like to make every thread your own personal "soapbox" and when someone disagrees with you he is then accused of "ruining " a thread. Yes we disagree, yes I will away's disagree with your rhetoric and your constant stand on your own little crusade. You seem hell bend to take our team into something that we are all trying to rid ourselves from, but when you throw your bile which you constantly do you also think that , that is your right of freedom of speech. But when you are taken to task for your comments, right away its "oh here goe's another thread". I see you are listening, as I was the one who asked you many months ago to take a certain thread to PM "I'll say it again, I screwed up as I said e-mail" and you came back with a nice quote, I also asked you to take the SSB thread to PM before it got out of hand, if you remember right I also wanted my name taken off as being the thread starter,and I also asked you to take it to PM, what was your response, well you know what it was, and guess what happened. So now you ask me to take things to PM on a daily basis, the answer is no, for I will allow you to spew your bile , and trust me I will take you to task for it, something that your not familiar with evidently. I have also noticed that you have agreed with me about 3 times this past week, are you getting soft or do you miss the calvary I want to rid our club of any form of bigotry,racism,sectarianism and bile, you young man would rather keep your soapbox. |
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| desachi | Oct 9 2008, 04:27 AM Post #14 |
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:rolleyes: So be it. Each to their own. No skin off my back when it comes down to it. I do have an opinion, yes, as does every person who posts on the board, and more power to them. I think diversity makes for a strong board, and have never disputed anyone's right to have an opinion or express it, unless it is at odds with the rules and regulations, something it is my duty to try and uphold as a mod. Stick to those and you will be fine. Not sure why you think I am full of sectarianism or bile as you put it (pretty serious accusation there tam), or how you are actually solving any problems with the club with your posts, but hey, whatever you have to tell yourself to sleep well is fine by me, as outside of reality as it may be. :thumbs.up: I won't even bother asking what Yom Kippur has to do with all of this, as I haven't a scooby why you mentioned it? ![]() Might as well leave it at that for the time being, unto you your way, and unto me mine.
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| Mainser | Oct 9 2008, 08:38 AM Post #15 |
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Tam - firstly thanks for your response - I think I understand now that you are saying that you feel sport and politics shouldn't mix. (please correct me if I am wrong) So by logical conclusion, given that Celtic (football AND athletic club as we were originally called)) were started as a political organisation (note the small "p") to stop very poor Catholic families being converted to protestantism via the penny soup, then you are saying that historical political dimension should be ditched by current fans? You are perfectly entitled to hold that opinion, I may disagree with it but, as someone more erudite than me once said, "I will defend your right to have it (sic)" A simple yes or no to my question will suffice - just seeking clarity. |
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