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wow are you fucking kidding me
Topic Started: Jan 18 2011, 10:52 AM (1,002 Views)
Orangesmoke20
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you just made up those numbers no way you took time to do that lol
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Orangesmoke20
Jan 19 2011, 12:30 AM
you just made up those numbers no way you took time to do that lol
no I am definatly nerdy enough to do it. I don't know why I like figuring random things out like that. It took me alittle over an hour. half that time was putting together an excel worksheet to calculate it all and the other half was plugging the numbers. :lol:
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the other day I had a freind that wondered if he had a delorean if he could get it up to 88 mph before he hit the building on the other side of the parking lot at work and he insisted he could and I said I didn't think he could. when I got home I looked up all of the information on the car and figured out the size of the parking lot and determined he would get to 76-77 MPH before hitting the building. He still insisted he can do it. :lol:
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id insist he try it then
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Orangesmoke20
Jan 19 2011, 12:49 AM
id insist he try it then
If I could find a free delorean I would
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You could find one that hit the buildin and someone would still want 20K for it
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Jan 19 2011, 12:15 AM
Old Points System
Harvick 5274
Johnson 4989
Hamlin 4865
Edwards 4820
Gordon 4669
Ky.Busch 4647
Kenseth 4640
Stewart4628
Ku.Busch 4459
Burton 4423
Biffle 4414
Bowyer 4376

Proposed Points System
Harvick 1258
Johnson1156
Hamlin 1137
Edwards 1137
Gordon 1118
Kenseth1102
Ky.Busch 1100
Stewart1077
Biffle 1034
Burton 1033
Ku.Busch 1031
Bowyer1014
The only ones that lose spots in this new system are the Busch brothers. Just emphasize that fact and 90% of Nascar fans would support the change.
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Naturally Kurt loses more spots than Kyle though.
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Jan 19 2011, 09:43 AM
The only ones that lose spots in this new system are the Busch brothers. Just emphasize that fact and 90% of Nascar fans would support the change.
And Gordo.

Further being screw by more point system.
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Gordon Owns
Jan 19 2011, 11:27 AM
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Jan 19 2011, 09:43 AM
The only ones that lose spots in this new system are the Busch brothers. Just emphasize that fact and 90% of Nascar fans would support the change.
And Gordo.

Further being screw by more point system.
:huh: he still finishes 5th
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Who cares about 5th?

And according to the expert Gordon would finish in the back in the new points.

Jimmie Johnson: 388
Kevin Harvick: 387
Denny Hamlin: 386
Carl Edwards: 340
Matt Kenseth: 314
Greg Biffle: 293
Tony Stewart: 287
Jeff Gordon: (+1) 279
Clint Bowyer: (+1) 272
Kyle Busch: (-2) 267
Kurt Busch: 265
Jeff Burton: 232

And I'm talking about championships not laboring to finish 5th or talking about just last year.
Edited by Gordon Owns, Jan 19 2011, 12:23 PM.
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the difference is your "expert" calculated the chase. My comparison was the 2003 points system against against the new points system without the chase to show you there isn't a big difference in the standing regaurdless of how many points they award. It just further shows the chase is what screws everything up since it makes the first 26 races useless.
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BTW, there is going to be a live NASCAR News Conference on ESPN at 7PM.

Most likely to announce the new point system.
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Disasterous changes.
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Changes seem to be exactly what was said before. Honestly it seems the same. Less math involved to figure out if youre driver is gonna pass anyone in points. Hes 3 points back and hes 4 spots ahead....ok he just passed em in points. Its simple enough. Winnin meanin more is nice too. So meh, its an ok change I guess
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So what I'm to gather is Brian France has no faith in his driver's or fan's ability to do simple math?
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He talked about qualifying having to do with practice or something to that effect too.

Not really a fan of neither change.
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NASCAR announces changes for 2011 season: NASCAR announced Wednesday that it has added a wild card element to setting the Chase for the NASCAR Sprint Cup field and it has simplified its points system for 2011, making it easier for fans, competitors and the industry to understand.
While the 12-driver Chase field remains intact, the final two spots will be determined by the number of wins during the first 26 races.
The top 10 in points following Race No. 26 -- the "cutoff" race -- continue to earn Chase berths.
Positions 11 and 12 are "wild card" qualifiers and will go to non-top-10-ranked drivers with the most wins, as long as they're ranked in the top 20 in points. The top-10 Chase drivers will continue to be seeded based on wins during the first 26 races, with each win worth three bonus points. The wild card drivers will not receive bonus points for wins and will be seeded 11th and 12th, respectively. It's a move aimed towards rewarding winning and consistency during the regular season.
Brian France, NASCAR Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, made the announcements at the NASCAR Hall of Fame during NASCAR's annual media event as part of the NASCAR Sprint Media Tour.
"The fans tell us that winning matters the most with them, so we're combining the tradition of consistency in our sport with the excitement that comes along with winning," said France. "This makes every race count leading into the 26th race of the season at Richmond, when we set the field for the Chase for the NASCAR Sprint Cup."
The new points system -- which applies to all NASCAR national series -- will award points in one-point increments. As an example, in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series, race winners will earn 43 points, plus three bonus points for the win. Winners also can earn an extra point for leading a lap and leading the most laps, bringing their total to a possible maximum of 48 points.
All other drivers in a finishing order will be separated by one-point increments. A second-place finisher will earn 42 points, a third-place driver 41 points, and so on. A last-place finisher  43rd place  earns one point. In the NASCAR Camping World Truck Series, the last-place finisher receives eight points, to account for that series' 36-driver race field.
"Many of our most loyal fans don't fully understand the points system we have used to date," said France, referencing the system that has been in use since 1975. "So, we are simplifying the points system to one that is much easier to understand. Conceptually, it is comparable to our previous system, but it is easier to follow."
During his remarks Wednesday night, France reflected on the outstanding competition the sport enjoyed in 2010 and expected to see that high-caliber of racing to continue once the green flag drops for the 53rd running of the Daytona 500 Feb. 20.
"NASCAR enters 2011 with positive momentum and a great sense of excitement and optimism," said France. "We're extremely excited for the launch of the season. Leading the season off with Daytona, Phoenix and Las Vegas, we believe our fans are in store for some of the best racing the sport has to offer."


Other competitive enhancements announced Wednesday:

Pick a Series  Drivers in all three national series now must select the series where they'll compete for a driver championship. Drivers still may compete in multiple series and help their teams win owner titles in series where they're not competing for a driver title. The move helps spotlight young talent in the NASCAR Nationwide and NASCAR Camping World Truck Series.

New Qualifying Procedure  The qualifying order will be set based upon slowest to fastest practice speeds.

Inclement Weather Qualifying  If bad weather cancels qualifying, the final starting lineup will be determined by practice speeds. The same rule book procedures will be used to determine eligibility to start a race. If weather cancels practice sessions, then the starting lineup will be set by points, per the rule book.

Tire Rules Revision  NASCAR Sprint Cup Series teams now are allowed five sets of tires for practice and qualifying instead of six. They must return four of those sets to Goodyear in order to receive their race allotment, and may keep one set of practice/qualifying tires. Tire allotments for race weekends will vary according to historical performance data.

Closed Loop Fueling System  Introduced in the NASCAR Camping World Truck Series, this goes into effect for all three national series in 2011. It combines a more efficient fueling system with the elimination of the catch-can man, considered the most "vulnerable" pit-crew member. Teams now will use six, rather than seven, over-the-wall pit-crew members.

Evolution Of NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Car  NASCAR continues to work with the manufacturers and teams to enhance the look of the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series car. The cars have new fronts this season and the body makeover will continue to help appeal to fans and aid manufacturer identity.
(NASCAR)(1-26-2011)

Chase will go to top 10, plus 2 biggest winners: Twelve NASCAR Sprint Cup drivers will make the Chase for the Sprint Cup in 2011 -- the top 10 in points and the two drivers not in the top 10 who have the most race victories in NASCAR's 26-race regular season. NASCAR Chairman and CEO Brian France is expected to confirm that arrangement, along with a points system that gives 43 points to race winners and then one-point increments down to just one point for the last-place finisher. Each driver who leads a lap will get one bonus point, and regular-season race winners are expected to get two or three Chase bonus points for each victory. There will be no knockout rounds in the Chase, as NASCAR had hinted at earlier.(SPEED)(1-26-2011)


Figured I would put this here so people that missed the conference (like myself) can see what exactly was said.
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I think the Inclement Weather Qualifying rule is awesome. they should have done that a long time ago.
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Nice that they finally got a closed fuel system too. Seemed very out of date usin the old way. Also be nice when they switch to fuel injection in 2012
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Blasphemy.
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now can we just get shorter races
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Was kinda hoping he would announce that today. Alas no.
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