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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 7 2008, 02:37 PM (571 Views) | |
| McLarenCrazy | Nov 7 2008, 02:37 PM Post #1 |
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Sadly, we are now to the point that it is time to panic in regards to the future of General Motors, Ford Motor Co. and Chrysler. Check out the links below to see just how bleak things are looking. GMI is hearing from the media and sources that GM has about 120 days of liquidity left, Ford has about 7 months of liquidity and that Chrysler LLC is basically insolvent. At this point it appears that the US auto industry will have an extremely difficult time avoiding bankruptcy or flat-out collapse without government bailouts. This is just depressing. I mean look at the products the big three have put out the last few years. Things are looking better "now" product wise but it is like the kid who keeps throwing stuff in class, he was warned twice and now he is going to cry when the teacher calls his parents. Point is it is not all their fault as the down economy hurt everything and mostly everyone, but how about vehicles that weren't that attractive and had so-so interior quality and maintence issues. Toyota and Honda have mostly hideous or plain looking vehicles but they did at least get 30-35 mpg, so GM, FORD, and Chrysler have some of the best engineers on the planet and if they wanted to they could have been doing as well if not better. Another case of greed and mismanagement leading to the government having to bail them out again. You know what Rick Wagoner says, "it's okay because I drive a Toyota." |
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| Ram Jam | Nov 7 2008, 02:50 PM Post #2 |
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I blame Daimler. They raped Chrysler. |
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| JetBlack3 | Nov 7 2008, 03:09 PM Post #3 |
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Yea they are pretty much doomed at this point. Govt bailout probabaly isnt gonna save GM at this point and the other 2 arent but days from being to that point too. Thats ALOT of jobs lost. |
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| Ram Jam | Nov 7 2008, 03:32 PM Post #4 |
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I say merge all 3 to 1 big company. American Motors. ![]() Keep the Mustang, Corvette, Minivan and Ram and then colaborate on new products. |
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| McLarenCrazy | Nov 7 2008, 03:41 PM Post #5 |
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Mustang, Vette, Minivan, Silverado (+Ram Box) (change name) |
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| JetBlack3 | Nov 7 2008, 03:44 PM Post #6 |
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Might not be far from reality lol |
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| Ram Jam | Nov 7 2008, 03:49 PM Post #7 |
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The new Ram gets better reviews than the Silverado is why I say keep that. |
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| Orangesmoke20 | Nov 7 2008, 03:51 PM Post #8 |
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Too hot to handle.. too cold to hold... ohhhhhh yeahhhhh!!!
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if they went with the ram over the silverado it would ensure that the tundra was Americas top selling truck lol |
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| Ram Jam | Nov 7 2008, 03:52 PM Post #9 |
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Not really. If you stick the Chevy symbol on there it would probably be the top selling truck in America. |
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| Orangesmoke20 | Nov 7 2008, 03:53 PM Post #10 |
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Too hot to handle.. too cold to hold... ohhhhhh yeahhhhh!!!
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i think the rams are horrible looking they are the 1 thing that make an f-150 look good |
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| Ram Jam | Nov 7 2008, 03:55 PM Post #11 |
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Well you suck. The new Rams are glorious. They may look better than the 94-01 style that I hold so dearly to my heart. |
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| JetBlack3 | Nov 7 2008, 03:57 PM Post #12 |
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Yea the Silverados look better imo too. That front slant grill is rough. Just too bulky lookin to me. But the panel box is cool |
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| JetBlack3 | Nov 7 2008, 03:58 PM Post #13 |
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Oh yea, they have a V6 blue challenger at Marlows david. Pretty much no options version, $22k on sticker. So Im sure Marlows wants at least $35k |
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| Ram Jam | Nov 7 2008, 04:00 PM Post #14 |
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It's too bulky for you because you aren't man enough to handle it. Besides the Sierra's look better than the Silverado anyway. But I meant the underlying tech more than exterior sheetmetal anyway. You can do anything with that, but the new Ram has the ride and power a truck should have. Stick a 6 speed auto in it and the option for a manual and you're set. |
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| McLarenCrazy | Nov 7 2008, 04:01 PM Post #15 |
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Says who Edmunds, Allpar where are these "reviews". |
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| Ram Jam | Nov 7 2008, 04:01 PM Post #16 |
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Marlow can suck it, if that's the case. I'd like a blue one with the Hemi, no options and the stickshift. |
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| JetBlack3 | Nov 7 2008, 04:02 PM Post #17 |
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Im sure combined they would make a great truck. Just prefer GMs exterior and interior myself. Then again I dont like trucks so my opinion wont matter since Ill never buy one. Unless its a G8 Sport Truck
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| Ram Jam | Nov 7 2008, 04:03 PM Post #18 |
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I'll find them for you later. But I'd say the best place to look is Road & Track and Motortrend to start. |
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| JetBlack3 | Nov 7 2008, 04:03 PM Post #19 |
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They do have a black R/T with a stick. Not sure on options since the window sticker was in the floor |
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| Ram Jam | Nov 7 2008, 04:03 PM Post #20 |
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Gel Camino you mean. |
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| McLarenCrazy | Nov 7 2008, 04:03 PM Post #21 |
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And atleast I am seeing Brian, OS, and I have better taste in trucks. |
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| JetBlack3 | Nov 7 2008, 04:05 PM Post #22 |
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Sexy Camino you mean ![]() you know you want it |
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| Ram Jam | Nov 7 2008, 04:06 PM Post #23 |
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I thought you liked the Sierra better too? You did when they first came out. |
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| McLarenCrazy | Nov 7 2008, 04:09 PM Post #24 |
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I can't make the call. Possibly the silverado now who knows? Brian quit pimpin the gel camino, no one is buyin. |
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| Orangesmoke20 | Nov 7 2008, 04:09 PM Post #25 |
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Too hot to handle.. too cold to hold... ohhhhhh yeahhhhh!!!
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ohhhh yeah thats the stuff |
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