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Something missing in Speedweeks.
Topic Started: Feb 14 2007, 01:09 PM (348 Views)
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Okay I love Nascar and I love watching cars on the track even if it just for practice. One might say, "well is only practice, who cares?" well if you're one of them, then I'ma have to question your passion for the sport. Because any hardcore fan would watch anything that the cars are doing out there. With that said I'll say the following:

I don't understand why there's 2 days off (Monday and Tuesday) when years ago we used to have track action everyday during speedweeks. I remember Friday, they'd practice for the shootout. Saturday would be practice for qualifying and then the shootout, sunday the qualifying for the 500. Monday a cup practice and the Goody's Dash series series action. Tuesday morning we'd have trucks and busch practice and I still remember when they interviewed Michael Waltrip and he had a face of just waking up. I remember they asked him "Did you just wake up?" "Yeah the cars woke me up" :lol: On wednesday we'd just to have the Cup practices, busch practice and truck practice and qualifying. Thursday the duels, more busch practice and the truck happy hour. Friday the truck race, busch qualifying and a cup practice, saturday cup happy hour, busch race and then on Sunday the Daytona 500. And that used to be awesome, everyday we would have something to watch. But now? We get two days without any track action whatsover.

It's silly and dumb to have impounded races for the Truck series and Busch series. If Daytona is the marquee track and the most loved one and with the most history, then they should treat those races like the Cup race. They oughta make a Busch duel races, and maybe do it in the trucks too. Something that would bring more excitement to the track. I just hate having two days off when supposibly this is supposed to be the biggest event in Nascar. We need more excitement, so more people can watch. It's like when the FIFA World Cup starts, we get tons of games right away with group play. When the MLB postseason starts it's the same thing, day after day of action or when March Madness begins. Tons of excitement and hype towards all of those events. And Nascar is slowly but surely losing that excitment on their biggest known track.

I'd love for them if they do something about this. One might say, it's going to cost a lot of money for those lesser teams. But this is Daytona and every event there is huge, so why not make it more entertaining? What do you all think?
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Maybe I am alone in thinking this but I think you are asking too much of the sprot and it's drivers. To me you sound selfish and don't care what they do as long as you get to watch racing. Yeah it is the Daytona 500 and the biggest race of the season but to me it doesn't need anymore hype or extra races or practices everyday. When something gets hyped up alot by the time you get to the actual event it leaves you feeling empty and wanting more. coughsuperbowlcough. What do you want next a half time show or another race in the middle of a race?

Also I don't really care to watch practice because it isn't exciting sure you get to see them drive and make adjustments for the race and you get some interveiws but it is nowhere near as exciting as the actual race. You can question my passion for the sport because I don't like practice but that is my opinion and I have alot of passion for the sport.
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Most of the time all I do is watch the race. Sometimes I don't even know who the polesitter is. Yet I still love NASCAR and have a passion for it.
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its retarded for the trucks or busch series to not be impound races if it wasnt for the twins cup should be impound too these cars and trucks are comming off the haulers as fast as they are gonna get so why waste everybodys time with all the extra bs till race time you can put monkeys in the cars and the speed charts will all look the same
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I think it's fine how it is. Your looking at increasing the tire bill and wear and tear on equipment with more practicing for and racing. Busch and Trucks having a tire limit wouldn't be as bad for them, but if they ran races Nascar might have to allow another set or two of tires if they increased everything. Not to mention fuel costs. As far as people not having passion because they don't watch practice is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
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It's not like they can really change a whole lot once they get to the track anyway.
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Feb 15 2007, 01:18 AM
As far as people not having passion because they don't watch practice is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

the only reason i see to ever watch practice is the driver interveiws and the odd time they catch the drivers goofing off with each other.. if you watch practice to see the cars on the track you have way way way too much spare time
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Feb 15 2007, 12:27 AM
its retarded for the trucks or busch series to not be impound races if it wasnt for the twins cup should be impound too these cars and trucks are comming off the haulers as fast as they are gonna get so why waste everybodys time with all the extra bs till race time you can put monkeys in the cars and the speed charts will all look the same

every single word in your post is so dumb and stupid. We might've forgotten which track we're racing because if this was Pocono or New Hampshire where there's no action whatsover then I'da agree in some points with you. But this is DAYTONA. DAYTONA!! If you don't get excited watching the duels because that's not the 500 then you must be nuts. I could give a rat's ass if Matt is safely in the field. The fact that you're watching him manuever and make his way through the field will only indicate what you really have for the 500. Its the same in practice. If your car was as fast as you got it out of your hauler then we might as well give the trophy to whoever posts the fastest practice speed in Friday. While practicing you can adjust your car so you can gain more speed but give some in handling or vice versa. See what your car does in different lanes. See on which car your car works the best. Those kinds of things. Now if your driver is not in the field or you're a really great fan of Nascar then you love watching the Duels because you're trying to pull for the underdogs. My god did you not see the first race? Tons of drama, emotion and passion just trying to get into the race. That's what makes Daytona the best track out there. You wouldn't see Bliss crying because he failed to qualify for the Pocono 500. Daytona is the one you dream of racing and you can ask every driver out there and they'll tell you the same thing. That's why I said that they should implement the same deal for the Busch Series and maybe the Truck Series.
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And I might've gone overboard saying that I was questioning ya'll passion because you didn't watch practice, but a lot of you have been on record saying that you fall sleep while watching a race. That's even worse. If you're falling asleep watching the race regardless of the track then you must think Nascar is boring because there's no other explanation to why you would sleep while the race is on.
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Feb 15 2007, 04:12 PM

every single word in your post is so dumb and stupid. We might've forgotten which track we're racing because if this was Pocono or New Hampshire where there's no action whatsover then I'da agree in some points with you. But this is DAYTONA. DAYTONA!! If you don't get excited watching the duels because that's not the 500 then you must be nuts. I could give a rat's ass if Matt is safely in the field. The fact that you're watching him manuever and make his way through the field will only indicate what you really have for the 500. Its the same in practice. If your car was as fast as you got it out of your hauler then we might as well give the trophy to whoever posts the fastest practice speed in Friday. While practicing you can adjust your car so you can gain more speed but give some in handling or vice versa. See what your car does in different lanes. See on which car your car works the best. Those kinds of things. Now if your driver is not in the field or you're a really great fan of Nascar then you love watching the Duels because you're trying to pull for the underdogs. My god did you not see the first race? Tons of drama, emotion and passion just trying to get into the race. That's what makes Daytona the best track out there. You wouldn't see Bliss crying because he failed to qualify for the Pocono 500. Daytona is the one you dream of racing and you can ask every driver out there and they'll tell you the same thing. That's why I said that they should implement the same deal for the Busch Series and maybe the Truck Series.

go fuck your self you no nothing peice of shit ive forgotten more about nascar then youll ever dream of knowing... how little do you really know if you think a car will get any better at a plate track after they unload it practice doesnt matter one little bit and the times they put up mean even less at a plate track then they do anyplace else you can have the slowest practice time the slowest qualifying time and kill everybody when the race starts this isnt california this isnt vegas.. why dont you stick with basketball is more your speed.. if it wasnt for the fact nascar is the new big thing you wouldnt want anything to do with it
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Feb 15 2007, 04:51 PM
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Feb 15 2007, 04:12 PM

every single word in your post is so dumb and stupid. We might've forgotten which track we're racing because if this was Pocono or New Hampshire where there's no action whatsover then I'da agree in some points with you. But this is DAYTONA. DAYTONA!! If you don't get excited watching the duels because that's not the 500 then you must be nuts. I could give a rat's ass if Matt is safely in the field. The fact that you're watching him manuever and make his way through the field will only indicate what you really have for the 500. Its the same in practice. If your car was as fast as you got it out of your hauler then we might as well give the trophy to whoever posts the fastest practice speed in Friday. While practicing you can adjust your car so you can gain more speed but give some in handling or vice versa. See what your car does in different lanes. See on which car your car works the best. Those kinds of things. Now if your driver is not in the field or you're a really great fan of Nascar then you love watching the Duels because you're trying to pull for the underdogs. My god did you not see the first race? Tons of drama, emotion and passion just trying to get into the race. That's what makes Daytona the best track out there. You wouldn't see Bliss crying because he failed to qualify for the Pocono 500. Daytona is the one you dream of racing and you can ask every driver out there and they'll tell you the same thing. That's why I said that they should implement the same deal for the Busch Series and maybe the Truck Series.

go fuck your self you no nothing peice of shit ive forgotten more about nascar then youll ever dream of knowing... how little do you really know if you think a car will get any better at a plate track after they unload it practice doesnt matter one little bit and the times they put up mean even less at a plate track then they do anyplace else you can have the slowest practice time the slowest qualifying time and kill everybody when the race starts this isnt california this isnt vegas.. why dont you stick with basketball.. if it wasnt for the fact nascar is the new big thing you wouldnt want anything to do with it

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Feb 15 2007, 04:12 PM

every single word in your post is so dumb and stupid. We might've forgotten which track we're racing because if this was Pocono or New Hampshire where there's no action whatsover then I'da agree in some points with you. But this is DAYTONA. DAYTONA!! If you don't get excited watching the duels because that's not the 500 then you must be nuts. I could give a rat's ass if Matt is safely in the field. The fact that you're watching him manuever and make his way through the field will only indicate what you really have for the 500. Its the same in practice. If your car was as fast as you got it out of your hauler then we might as well give the trophy to whoever posts the fastest practice speed in Friday. While practicing you can adjust your car so you can gain more speed but give some in handling or vice versa. See what your car does in different lanes. See on which car your car works the best. Those kinds of things. Now if your driver is not in the field or you're a really great fan of Nascar then you love watching the Duels because you're trying to pull for the underdogs. My god did you not see the first race? Tons of drama, emotion and passion just trying to get into the race. That's what makes Daytona the best track out there. You wouldn't see Bliss crying because he failed to qualify for the Pocono 500. Daytona is the one you dream of racing and you can ask every driver out there and they'll tell you the same thing. That's why I said that they should implement the same deal for the Busch Series and maybe the Truck Series.

go fuck your self you no nothing peice of shit ive forgotten more about nascar then youll ever dream of knowing... how little do you really know if you think a car will get any better at a plate track after they unload it practice doesnt matter one little bit and the times they put up mean even less at a plate track then they do anyplace else you can have the slowest practice time the slowest qualifying time and kill everybody when the race starts this isnt california this isnt vegas.. why dont you stick with basketball is more your speed.. if it wasnt for the fact nascar is the new big thing you wouldnt want anything to do with it

Okay Mr-Know-it-all. How is having the slowest time in practice and slowest time in qualifying killing the rest of the field when the race starts? If you're slow, you'll be slow and you'll start from the back unless you get the front row in qualifying and even then when you race in the duels everyone will take a note and go around you when the 500 starts. If you're gonna take shots at me, at least bring something relevant with it. I can't count the times I've heard during speedweeds that for the first time ever, you have to have a better handling car because of the tire then trying to gain speed out of the restrictor plate.
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and fuck you about your last sentence. It seems to me that you can't handle someone disagreeing with your post. You're the one that gave me the most beef when I was doing the same last month. I've been watching nascar since 1995 so get your fact straight. The sport have changed, the cars have changed, the drivers have changed so it doesn't matter what you know or how long you konw about the cars because everything has changed. :wink:
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Feb 15 2007, 05:27 PM
Okay Mr-Know-it-all. How is having the slowest time in practice and slowest time in qualifying killing the rest of the field when the race starts? If you're slow, you'll be slow and you'll start from the back unless you get the front row in qualifying and even then when you race in the duels everyone will take a note and go around you when the 500 starts. If you're take shots at me, at least bring something relevant with it. I can't count the times I've heard during speedweeds that for the first time ever, you have to have a better handling car because of the tire then trying to gain speed out of the restrictor plate.

dont see that 20 car at the top of qualifying or practice but shit hes 2 for 2 i bet it was all that practice he got in the car back at testing.. oh wait they got a guy who doesnt have the talent to get a cts ride to test the car... till he turned his brain off for a few seconds the 55 car was flying from the front to the back and hes been among the bottom of practice and qualifying and i didnt say the slowest guy was going to dominate anything i just said it was possible but you just keep sitting there being mr wanna be nascarfan or tryhard nascar fan as for takeing shots at you i do believe you fired the first one so dont be calling somebody out if you dont feel like haveing to defend your self

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I can't count the times I've heard during speedweeds that for the first time ever, you have to have a better handling car because of the tire then trying to gain speed out of the restrictor plate.


and that means nothing for the cts or bgn ... bgn uses a total diffrent package that is all aero and horspower cts doesnt even have a plate but hey somebody as smart as you should know that right? they dont need a bunch of practice its a waste of tires and time for the drivers and crew


... wait i bet the reason the 55 got faster today is they changed their tires to radial
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Feb 15 2007, 05:34 PM
and fuck you about your last sentence. It seems to me that you can't handle someone disagreeing with your post. You're the one that gave me the most beef when I was doing the same last month. I've been watching nascar since 1995 so get your fact straight. The sport have changed, the cars have changed, the drivers have changed so it doesn't matter what you know or how long you konw about the cars because everything has changed. :wink:

disagree with me all you want why would i car the problem i have is some no nothing peice of shit calling me stupid when they cant even tell their ass from a hole in the ground all i did was give my opinion and you made it personal so who cant deal with people disagreeing with them take a look in the mirror there fuck face.. and i never once said when you started watchinf so how does that effect my facts? wouldnt make a diffrence if youd been watching for 2 or 20 years it dont change the fact that your an idiot
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Feb 15 2007, 05:27 PM
Okay Mr-Know-it-all. How is having the slowest time in practice and slowest time in qualifying killing the rest of the field when the race starts? If you're slow, you'll be slow and you'll start from the back unless you get the front row in qualifying and even then when you race in the duels everyone will take a note and go around you when the 500 starts. If you're take shots at me, at least bring something relevant with it. I can't count the times I've heard during speedweeds that for the first time ever, you have to have a better handling car because of the tire then trying to gain speed out of the restrictor plate.

dont see that 20 car at the top of qualifying or practice but shit hes 2 for 2 i bet it was all that practice he got in the car back at testing.. oh wait they got a guy who doesnt have the talent to get a cts ride to test the car... till he turned his brain off for a few seconds the 55 car was flying from the front to the back and hes been among the bottom of practice and qualifying and i didnt say the slowest guy was going to dominate anything i just said it was possible but you just keep sitting there being mr wanna be nascarfan or tryhard nascar fan as for takeing shots at you i do believe you fired the first one so dont be calling somebody out if you dont feel like haveing to defend your self

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I can't count the times I've heard during speedweeds that for the first time ever, you have to have a better handling car because of the tire then trying to gain speed out of the restrictor plate.


and that means nothing for the cts or bgn ... bgn uses a total diffrent package that is all aero and horspower cts doesnt even have a plate but hey somebody as smart as you should know that right? they dont need a bunch of practice its a waste of tires and time for the drivers and crew


... wait i bet the reason the 55 got faster today is they changed their tires to radial

okay and how would the 55 today would've done all you said if you said in your first post that the Cup race should be impounded too? :rolleyes: RIIIIGGGHHHTTT I've never said anywhere that being the fastest in practice meant shit. Every cup event wheter is practice, duels, qualifying or the race itself is being televised and I love that, you were the one that brought up the fact that practice doesn't mean shit. So why add all that bs. remember? All I said was my idea for the Busch series and Trucks. Make something simlilar to the duels so we can have some excitement. You saw it today with the Cup event and we can have the same for the busch and truck regardless of the packages that they run.

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KB, stop. Your getting pwned pretty bad enough. :lol:
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Feb 15 2007, 05:40 PM
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Feb 15 2007, 05:34 PM
and fuck you about your last sentence. It seems to me that you can't handle someone disagreeing with your post. You're the one that gave me the most beef when I was doing the same last month. I've been watching nascar since 1995 so get your fact straight. The sport have changed, the cars have changed, the drivers have changed so it doesn't matter what you know or how long you konw about the cars because everything has changed. :wink:

disagree with me all you want why would i car the problem i have is some no nothing peice of shit calling me stupid when they cant even tell their ass from a hole in the ground all i did was give my opinion and you made it personal so who cant deal with people disagreeing with them take a look in the mirror there fuck face.. and i never once said when you started watchinf so how does that effect my facts? wouldnt make a diffrence if youd been watching for 2 or 20 years it dont change the fact that your an idiot

so I call you stupid and you get so offended and take shots but when you call me similar things is alright because it's been made by you? and you trying to be funny? because when I call you out because of your remarks, you always seem to bring the "i was joking, can't take a joke?" but here we are with basically the same thing and you react the same way? I'll give you the mirror back.
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Feb 15 2007, 05:48 PM

okay and how would the 55 today would've done all you said if you said in your first post that the Cup race should be impounded too? :rolleyes: RIIIIGGGHHHTTT

do you no speaka la english this week or what? where the fuck did i say i wanted the cup race to be an impound race... i said it should be if it wasnt for the duels.. but see they have the duels we just watched them so im not real sure what point your trying to make

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All I said was my idea for the Busch series and Trucks. Make something simlilar to the duels so we can have some excitement.


you know what i like that idea but they dont have them for those series so i fail to see how practice is going to add anything to this week
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[you always seem to bring the "i was joking, can't take a joke?" but here we are with basically the same thing and you react the same way? I'll give you the mirror back.

one of us would have to be jokeing for that to apply wouldnt it? ive ment everything ive said and if you say you didnt then not only are you a no nothing you would also be a liar
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Feb 15 2007, 05:48 PM

okay and how would the 55 today would've done all you said if you said in your first post that the Cup race should be impounded too?  :rolleyes:  RIIIIGGGHHHTTT

do you no speaka la english this week or what? where the fuck did i say i wanted the cup race to be an impound race... i said it should be if it wasnt for the duels.. but see they have the duels we just watched them so im not real sure what point your trying to make

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All I said was my idea for the Busch series and Trucks. Make something simlilar to the duels so we can have some excitement.


you know what i like that idea but they dont have them for those series so i fail to see how practice is going to add anything to this week

An impound race would get rid of the duels because we would only have practice, then qualifying and then race. that's what an impound race means. I don't even understand what you're saying in that sentence.


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... wait i bet the reason the 55 got faster today is they changed their tires to radial

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An impound race would get rid of the duels because we would only have practice, then qualifying and then race. that's what an impound race means. I don't even understand what you're saying in that sentence.

thats why i said if it wasnt for the duels it should be an impound race.. i never said get rid of the duels ... since there are duels the cup race shouldnt be an impound race im really not getting wtf you dont understand there are gerbels banging their heads on their desks because they can follow along and you cant.....

....and actually you could have the duels and still be an impound race.. you practice.. you qualify.. then impound the cars till the duels run the duels then impound them again but then youd have to go to a single engine rule for the week and i dont care much for that idea
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Feb 15 2007, 05:52 PM
[you always seem to bring the "i was joking, can't take a joke?" but here we are with basically the same thing and you react the same way? I'll give you the mirror back.

one of us would have to be jokeing for that to apply wouldnt it? ive ment everything ive said and if you say you didnt then not only are you a no nothing you would also be a liar

Jared, I've never known anyone that gets so offended because they were called stupid and dumb. But I apologize if you took it that way. And joking or not, you've said a lot of things to me like just days ago where u said "only an ignorant would put the winner of the race on the title" when i didn't even read brian's thread, or the same last month where you told me that if they were to put clowns or retards from chuck cheese's and I'd love them too because they work for FOX. Joking or not it's a way of disrespecting a friend. I mean I called you that and I can make a list, I called you stupid and dumb and you followed that up by calling me or telling me:
*Go Fuck yourself
*Piece of shit
*calling me a dumb fuck because you'll forget more about nascar then I will ever know about nascar
*calling me an idiot in a way because of the radial tires
*fuck face
*again piece of shit
*an idiot again

It doesn't get much clearer then that. I have yet to call you and I won't any of those things, but hey if I wanted to destroy a friendship and disrespect a friend then I'd have done the same thing. So gotcha. :wink:
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its not case of being offended ive been called way worse by way better people then you.. and go ahead and shove your list up your ass, if your gonna hit somebody you should expect to get hit back not get all upset that they have the nerve to fight back.. take a shot at david , brian, aaron or just about anybody else here and they will light you the fuck up in their own way too... i didnt say only an ignorant would put the race winner in the title i said it was ignorant to do so and yes there is a huge diffrence in how the sentance was worded the way you put it ignorant means stupid and the way i put it ignorant ment rude you can say you didnt see the thread that discussed that all you want but thats not a new subject it was brought up several times over last season as well i wasnt trying belittle you in any way with my comment about it i just called a spade black..

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