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Went to Dodge Dealership Today...
Topic Started: Jul 11 2005, 05:51 PM (336 Views)
JetBlack3
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Damn KB :o
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de3dejr8
Jul 19 2005, 07:22 PM
Well i sorta do too Dennis. Guess ill figure out in the next 6 months or so when I buy one :lol:

Yeah like to see what they said. Of course every other mag has said its a good car but not as fast as the GTO or as nice as some other car not even in its class :blink: :uhoh:

Yeah and being under 25 and a guy fucks ya even more. Got to pay for every other dumbass that fucked up a car over the years :aaron:

like killerbee :lol:
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:lmao: basically donkey
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yep. :aaron:

fuck the department of transportation
fuck the insurance companies
fuck the dumbasses wrecking and totalling their hot-rods
fuck the goverment
fuck the nation
fuck the world
fuck the universe

:aaron:
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Jul 19 2005, 07:37 PM
I pay $369 a month on insurance. :aaron:

monthy payment on the land rover: ~$500
monthly insurance fee: $400+ (amost the same as the car payment!)

current monthy paymet or lease on a:
Brand new BMW 3series: ~$400
Brand new Audi A4: >$400
Brand new Mercedes C class: >$400
Brand new Inifniti G35 Coupe: >$400



...i think u get the point by now :angry: :wacko:
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JetBlack3
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Yeah....dont buy expensive imports :lol:
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I LMAO everytime I hear a punk saying "Oh man, I'm gonna save me some money so that I can get my hands on that hot-rod, can you believe me driving in one of these? man, I'll be going everywhere showcasing my hot-rod and taking care of it better then my girl, man is gonna be out the hood boy!" Little do they know about the high price on insurance and all that, boy is priceless to see their faces then :lmao:
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That was me a few years ago. $25k for used Corvette. Easy boy. Yeeeeah Right :rolleyes:

Needless to say that dream died quick and painful. But hey found the new auto love of my life with reasonable insurance rates :up: :D
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de3dejr8
Jul 19 2005, 07:45 PM
Yeah....dont buy expensive imports :lol:

yea, but its the only one that comes with:
4.6L V8
Dual power and heated seats with automatic adjusable height, angle, and even lumbar support.
A front windscreen ice defroster (no more ice breakers in the winter!)
2 sunroofs
Leather seats with black seams
Locable differentials
Adjustable, self leveling suspension (the same device F1 banned because it produced too much of a driver aid)
Ability to drive through water
Not to mention the most useless feature of all.....the ability to transport the vehicle by helecopter: Posted Image

...And the ability to drive out of a driveway and street covered with snow upto the door handles (testes during last years snowstorm :lol: )

so :P to your cheap domestics :lol: :D
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Well hard to argue with Land Rover. Until something breaks on them :D
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de3dejr8
Jul 19 2005, 08:43 PM
Well hard to argue with Land Rover. Until something breaks on them :D

extended warranty :P

american cars are no better :lol:
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I dunno. Kinda even nowadays. Only ones with a clear cut difference is Toyota :uhoh:
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Jul 19 2005, 08:12 PM

i find that hard to believe, it would be possible if there is a lot of weight towards the front of the car, but then that compromises the handling badly. :wacko: I wouldnt really look at a pontiac fan board for a honest answer, after all...it is a fan board

I would wait till someone like car and driver or road and track reviews it first for a fair answer.

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?se...article_id=9964

It's called torque steer, and it's the major limiting factor in front-drive performance cars. Despite various engineering advances, the problem persists in cars such as Acura's otherwise superb TL, which sends 270 horsepower through a six-speed manual transmission to the front wheels via a helical limited-slip differential. But in the Grand Prix GXP, with more horsepower (303 at 5600 rpm) and a lot more torque (323 pound-feet at 4400 rpm), torque steer is not a serious issue. There are hints—a little tugging when the driver cracks the throttle at low speed—but no real wrestling.

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Sep 17 2005, 08:37 PM
Dennis
Jul 19 2005, 08:12 PM

i find that hard to believe, it would be possible if there is a lot of weight towards the front of the car, but then that compromises the handling badly. :wacko: I wouldnt really look at a pontiac fan board for a honest answer, after all...it is a fan board

I would wait till someone like car and driver or road and track reviews it first for a fair answer.

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?se...article_id=9964

It's called torque steer, and it's the major limiting factor in front-drive performance cars. Despite various engineering advances, the problem persists in cars such as Acura's otherwise superb TL, which sends 270 horsepower through a six-speed manual transmission to the front wheels via a helical limited-slip differential. But in the Grand Prix GXP, with more horsepower (303 at 5600 rpm) and a lot more torque (323 pound-feet at 4400 rpm), torque steer is not a serious issue. There are hints—a little tugging when the driver cracks the throttle at low speed—but no real wrestling.

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the verdict:

Lows: Hints of torque steer, hefty curb weight, high steering effort at low speed.

:wacko: why do they have to be sooo confusing..just make up thier damn minds


according to the article however, most of the torque steer was minimized due to the new Bridgestone tires...which would be a problem since it would be more difficult to find and very expensive
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Yeah tires are outragous and as of now only available through dealers with the same compound. But then again its a niche vehicle so kinda comes with the terf.
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