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USGP to Infineon?
Topic Started: Jun 28 2005, 11:00 AM (302 Views)
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Bruton would be interested to run F-1 race at Infineon: SMI's Bruton Smith. a veteran promoter, said he's willing to give Formula One and Bernie Ecclestone a hand - Smith is suggesting a Formula One race at his Sonoma road course. But Smith said that Ecclestone would have to bring money. If Ecclestone accepts, that would be quite a turnaround, since Ecclestone typically charges tracks a big fee for bringing the Grand Prix circus to town. Indianapolis Motor Speedway pays about $15 million a year for the right to run an F1 race. Smith said that if Ecclestone really wants to save Formula One in America, he'll have to dance to a different tune. Ecclestone, according to some reports, has made about $3.7 billion since taking over Formula One's TV operations 20 years ago.(Winston Salem Journal)(6-26-2005)

I'm having a funny feeling that ISC will make a counteroffer to run it at Watkins Glen or maybe Daytona (if they can find a way to run with the banking). Plus Tony George won't back down I bet. This oughta get interesting.
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:donkey: about those F1 pussys :rolleyes:
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Jun 28 2005, 12:00 PM
Bruton would be interested to run F-1 race at Infineon: SMI's Bruton Smith. a veteran promoter, said he's willing to give Formula One and Bernie Ecclestone a hand - Smith is suggesting a Formula One race at his Sonoma road course. But Smith said that Ecclestone would have to bring money. If Ecclestone accepts, that would be quite a turnaround, since Ecclestone typically charges tracks a big fee for bringing the Grand Prix circus to town. Indianapolis Motor Speedway pays about $15 million a year for the right to run an F1 race. Smith said that if Ecclestone really wants to save Formula One in America, he'll have to dance to a different tune. Ecclestone, according to some reports, has made about $3.7 billion since taking over Formula One's TV operations 20 years ago.(Winston Salem Journal)(6-26-2005)

I'm having a funny feeling that ISC will make a counteroffer to run it at Watkins Glen or maybe Daytona (if they can find a way to run with the banking). Plus Tony George won't back down I bet. This oughta get interesting.

Don't you know that Daytona has an infield road course. That track could easily host an F-1 race if enough people held interest. Wouldn't be much different than hosting the Rolex 24 hours of Daytona. However after the recent issue that occured at Indianapolis, it will take quite some time for F-1 to gain enough interest in the U.S. for ISC to start showing any interest. Until then hat's off to Bruton Smith for trying to save F-1 racing in America.
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I would think Road America or Sebring before Infineon, if they ever come back to the states any time soon.
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num1hendrickfan, if they use the Daytona road course the Grand Am cars use and the motorcycles use, they'd still use the 31 degree turns and the trioval.
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Jun 28 2005, 05:53 PM
num1hendrickfan, if they use the Daytona road course the Grand Am cars use and the motorcycles use, they'd still use the 31 degree turns and the trioval.

Remember these cars would be going well over a hundred through these turns, at that speed they would be more than able to handle 31 degrees of banking. Even a passenger car going 55-65 can handle the banking. Would make for quite a show on that course.
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Yeah. I meant they can run the road course as long as they have no issues with the banking. That would be probably one of the best Grand Prix's you'll ever see.
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C29Fan
Jun 28 2005, 06:40 PM
Yeah. I meant they can run the road course as long as they have no issues with the banking. That would be probably one of the best Grand Prix's you'll ever see.

the banking wasnt the problem the tires were...its not like this was the first f1 race at indy
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Jun 28 2005, 04:56 PM
C29Fan
Jun 28 2005, 06:40 PM
Yeah. I meant they can run the road course as long as they have no issues with the banking. That would be probably one of the best Grand Prix's you'll ever see.

the banking wasnt the problem the tires were...its not like this was the first f1 race at indy

The reason for the tire problems was because of the banking in turn 13 at Indy. If they can't handle 10 degrees of banking there is no way they can handle 30 + degrees.

Don't hold your breath for a GP at Daytona or Infineon. If there is going to be another GP it will probably be in a parking lot in Las Vegas. They ran in the parking lot of Ceaser's Palace in the early 80's and there has been talks of going back.
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What about the NYC rumor?
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Jun 29 2005, 03:54 PM
What about the NYC rumor?

I havn't heard anything on that since proposed track that ISC may build will be a short track instead of a superspeedway/infield road course. If they could find a place to go up there Bernie would be quick go up there.

According to Bob Varsha the US is one of the biggest marketing venues for Formula 1, and of course New York is one of the biggest marketing areas in the US so you know they would go there before anywhere else in the country.
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underbird92
Jun 29 2005, 04:54 PM
Orangesmoke20
Jun 28 2005, 04:56 PM
C29Fan
Jun 28 2005, 06:40 PM
Yeah. I meant they can run the road course as long as they have no issues with the banking. That would be probably one of the best Grand Prix's you'll ever see.

the banking wasnt the problem the tires were...its not like this was the first f1 race at indy

If there is going to be another GP it will probably be in a parking lot in Las Vegas. They ran in the parking lot of Ceaser's Palace in the early 80's and there has been talks of going back.

wasnt that race considered extremely dangerous? When it was setup back then, pit road was just a small area sectioned off on the side, it was soo tight and crowded that it was an accident waiting to happen....
...at least from wat i heard :unsure:


and i also really doubt that there would be a race at infineon or daytona...though it would be kinda cool with the elevation cahnges at infineon (spa anyone?)
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Jun 29 2005, 05:54 PM
The reason for the tire problems was because of the banking in turn 13 at Indy. If they can't handle 10 degrees of banking there is no way they can handle 30 + degrees.


if it was a track problem then why was this the first year with problems??... i dont know alot bout f1 but what changed from last year
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Orangesmoke20
Jun 29 2005, 09:06 PM
underbird92
Jun 29 2005, 05:54 PM
The reason for the tire problems was because of the banking in turn 13 at Indy.  If they can't handle 10 degrees of banking there is no way they can handle 30 + degrees. 


if it was a track problem then why was this the first year with problems??... i dont know alot bout f1 but what changed from last year

Every year, advancements in technology make the cars faster and faster. Along with the FIA's cost cutting attempt by making the teams use the same tires for the whole weekend the tires just couldn't hold up the speeds in the turn 12, 13, and front stretch area.
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Jun 30 2005, 04:05 AM
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Jun 29 2005, 09:06 PM
underbird92
Jun 29 2005, 05:54 PM
The reason for the tire problems was because of the banking in turn 13 at Indy.  If they can't handle 10 degrees of banking there is no way they can handle 30 + degrees. 


if it was a track problem then why was this the first year with problems??... i dont know alot bout f1 but what changed from last year

Every year, advancements in technology make the cars faster and faster. Along with the FIA's cost cutting attempt by making the teams use the same tires for the whole weekend the tires just couldn't hold up the speeds in the turn 12, 13, and front stretch area.

didnt the poorly repaved track have anything to do with it? They canceled or shortened IRL (or was it NASCAR?) pratice/testing sessions at that track due to track surface problems.
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if its a track problem wouldnt both tire companys have had problems.. i mean if one company can make a tire that was good enough there is no excuse for michilan
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Orangesmoke20
Jul 1 2005, 11:18 AM
if its a track problem wouldnt both tire companys have had problems.. i mean if one company can make a tire that was good enough there is no excuse for michilan

firestones were used for the entire IRL field, so when firestone learned of this problem, they worked to fix it and then they told thier sister company, bridgestone, news of the poor track surface. michilen had no idea of the track problems so they didnt know they had to bring a tire with a different compound.
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