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Hmiel in trouble again
Topic Started: Jun 2 2005, 04:46 PM (594 Views)
Orangesmoke20
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looks like dj was right lol

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Kamikaze
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:lol:

A+ on that one.
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Dewy9
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Orangesmoke20
Jun 2 2005, 11:32 PM
DewCrew914
Jun 2 2005, 11:26 PM
WTF does that mean?!

i learned that in law class lol.. it just means a dog isnt considerd viscious till it bites somebody, if it bites again then it can legaly be put down.. basically it means its ok to fuck up once just dont do it again

Deep stuff.
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Jun 3 2005, 09:32 AM

Deep stuff.

hey you asked
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Dewy9
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I know. :lol:

Every other message board agreed that they've all heard it was coke too.
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DOVER, Del. -- Shane Hmiel's smiling face still graces the side of the Braun Racing hauler at Dover, and it's just as well.

Even though Hmiel is barred from the track, he's still the talk of the garage.

Hmiel, who came into Dover 14th in Busch Series points, was suspended indefinitely by NASCAR after he failed a drug test last week in Charlotte.

NASCAR on Thursday suspended driver Shane Hmiel indefinitely for violation of the sanctioning body's substance abuse policy.

At the time of Hmiel's first suspension, he was in the middle of an outstanding steak, having scored top-10 finishes in four of last five starts.

He never approached that level of consistency in a 10-start Busch stint in 2004, although he had one win while driving a full Craftsman Truck Series schedule.

Busch Series competitors expressed disappointment at Hmiel's latest infraction, which disrupts a season in which he wrecked often a lot of cars but also scored three top-fives.

"It's a shame because the guy has a lot of talent," said Ashton Lewis, who has raced with Hmiel in each of the last four years. "I think he can be very successful in this sport given his talent, he's just got to get some issues worked out."

Mark Martin, who has made nine Busch starts in the last two years, was surprised at Hmiel's most recent suspension. Hmiel's father, Steve Hmiel, was Martin's long-time crew chief with Roush Racing.

"I am shocked, I can't believe it," said Martin. "I am a huge Shane Hmiel fan. I looked forward to having him mature as a driver. This is obviously a major setback."

Added Martin's fellow Roush Racing teammate Greg Biffle: "I was shocked, surprised. I really respect his dad, he worked for our company a long time, but I really don't know any of the details. I was as shocked as everyone was that there was another problem."

Question of drug testing

Busch Series veteran David Stremme says NASCAR has never tested him for drugs, but he welcomes open testing, as do Lewis and Martin.

Lewis is 33 years old. Stremme is 27. Martin is 46. Despite the generation gaps between the three, all of them agree that testing is needed -- and should probably be expanded.

"I used to work at a municipality and I got tested all the time," Stremme said. "Even when I ran ASA, my owner tested me.

"You've got 42 other people's lives [in your hands] on the track."

"As the sport grows, you have got to do that [drug testing]," Lewis said. "[You've got to] hold yourself to a higher standard."

"I don't have any problem with drug testing of any kind," Martin said. "Obviously you're speaking to an old-school driver who can't imagine a professional NASCAR driver having any problem with that."

Martin: 'People make mistakes'

Martin thinks that Hmiel will eventually by given another chance at resuming his once-promising career.

"People make mistakes, but it wouldn't be inconceivable to me that someone can make a mistake twice," he said.

Other drivers who have tested positive under NASCAR guidelines include Tim Richmond, Kevin Grubb, Brian Rose and Sammy Potashnick.

ALSO
Ryan Newman on NASCAR and drug testing:

Should there be mandatory testing?

Yes, anything as far as performance enhancing drugs, good or bad. Alcohol is obviously bad. Some steroids are out there that are potentially good. That's my point. It should be tested because we're professional athletes.


Does Shane Hmiel deserve another chance?

In my opinion, no. Does the court system work like that? No. Plenty of people are out there that are multiple offenders and are still carrying on doing what they're doing and leading a normal life. I don't think that's fair, but that's my opinion. I don't know how it's being done now, if every athlete is being tested in basketball, NFL and I guess you can't talk about hockey anymore, I don't know how they're doing it. I'm not saying that's the right way, but if you're going to find out, you should test everybody. We only have 150 drivers at the most. It's not like the NFL where you've got 30 teams of 60.

You wouldn't mind being tested?

As long as the testing process doesn't have a negative effect on me then there's no reason why I would object to it. I'll take the loss of time to know I'm not racing against somebody that's potentially going to have a negative effect on my career.


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What beats me is the fact that NASCAR is so strict about not using drugs, and until 2003 the cup series was sposored by Winston and the Grand National series is sponsored by Busch.... don't get it. NASCAR needs to follow their own advice.
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Illegal drugs LOL.
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Jun 3 2005, 04:53 PM
What beats me is the fact that NASCAR is so strict about not using drugs, and until 2003 the cup series was sposored by Winston and the Grand National series is sponsored by Busch.... don't get it. NASCAR needs to follow their own advice.

I guess Coca-Cola and Pepsi will be out too under your rules. LOL
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I'm going to admit right up that I am not a Shane Hmiel fan. Something about him has always rubbed me the wrong way. His conduct regarding Dale Jarrett at Bristol this year was uncalled for and solidified my dislike for him. Him apoligizing reminded me of a four year old about to be punished for doing something he wasn't supposed to. He apoligizes and apoligizes but he still needs to be punished in order to be shown that he can't continue to do it.

With that said, the news that Shane had been suspended for a 2nd time for violating NASCAR's substance abuse policy was, though not extremely suprising given Hmiel's conduct and appearance this year, dissapointing. I may not root for Shane but attitude non-withstanding, he has amazing natural talent in a race car. Its a shame that his decision very well may have ended his career in NASCAR racing. Should NASCAR impose a lifetime ban (Which is what I expect will happen), it would in my opinion rob the sport of a future frontrunner, if not star given his attitude issues. While I would support the decision, its dissapointing none the less. Even if his tenure in NASCAR sanctioned series is over, here's hoping he still seeks out the help he needs to overcome his problem before it ends something more important than a racing career.
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Jun 5 2005, 06:32 AM
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I'm going to admit right up that I am not a Shane Hmiel fan. Something about him has always rubbed me the wrong way. His conduct regarding Dale Jarrett at Bristol this year was uncalled for and solidified my dislike for him. Him apoligizing reminded me of a four year old about to be punished for doing something he wasn't supposed to. He apoligizes and apoligizes but he still needs to be punished in order to be shown that he can't continue to do it.

With that said, the news that Shane had been suspended for a 2nd time for violating NASCAR's substance abuse policy was, though not extremely suprising given Hmiel's conduct and appearance this year, dissapointing. I may not root for Shane but attitude non-withstanding, he has amazing natural talent in a race car. Its a shame that his decision very well may have ended his career in NASCAR racing. Should NASCAR impose a lifetime ban (Which is what I expect will happen), it would in my opinion rob the sport of a future frontrunner, if not star given his attitude issues. While I would support the decision, its dissapointing none the less. Even if his tenure in NASCAR sanctioned series is over, here's hoping he still seeks out the help he needs to overcome his problem before it ends something more important than a racing career.

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I doubt anyone outside of Charlie agrees with me but oh well.
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i think the punnishment should be determined by what it was he was takeing but since nascar wont release that info it leaves alot of fans in the dark
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just like DW said on the first time he got caught. "One of the reasons why families like Nascar so much is the fact that Drugs and NASCAR NEVER go together"

he got a second chance and he blew it so I hope he gets ban.
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In NASCAR This Morning they were debating whether Hmiel eould get a "third chance". To be honest I've never heard of a "third" chance. I think it's pretty safe to say that his racing career is over.
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Allenlm
Jun 5 2005, 11:48 PM
In NASCAR This Morning they were debating whether Hmiel eould get a "third chance". To be honest I've never heard of a "third" chance. I think it's pretty safe to say that his racing career is over.

Ever heard of three strikes you're out instead?
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When it comes to stuff like this i think 1 chance is enough
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we still dont even know what he was takeing and its extremly unfair to decide on a penalty with out knowing what it was
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It could even be cold medicine.
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CR49
Jun 6 2005, 05:24 PM
It could even be cold medicine.

exactally.. we dont konw what he got busted for or what nascar deems to be a banned substance just like normal they hide all the info and leave it all in the grey
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I read recently that Tim Richmond's first suspension actually ended up being cold medicine that had a hint of codine in it after I posted it.
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lmao from the power rankings

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#88- Dale Jarrett -Well, Shane Hmiel was right. He didn’t give Jarrett much time to get him back.
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CR49
Jun 7 2005, 12:11 PM
I read recently that Tim Richmond's first suspension actually ended up being cold medicine that had a hint of codine in it after I posted it.

But it was after he found out he had AIDS and Nascar knew that too.
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Orangesmoke20
Jun 7 2005, 09:34 PM
lmao from the power rankings

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#88- Dale Jarrett -Well, Shane Hmiel was right. He didn’t give Jarrett much time to get him back.

:lmao: I love the power Rankings
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I think ThatsRacing.com's Rankings are better.
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Jun 7 2005, 10:34 PM
lmao from the power rankings

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#88- Dale Jarrett -Well, Shane Hmiel was right. He didn’t give Jarrett much time to get him back.

:lmao: :lmao:
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