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Rla Strike Against Invaders.; VOTP article.
Topic Started: Dec 3 2005, 07:02 PM (753 Views)
The Red Factions
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RLA SURGICAL STRIKE CARRIED OUT AGAINST INVADERS!

Written by Ketoprofen and The Red Factions
Edited by Blackbird - Director of RLA Intelligence

It was with great surprise and anger that the members of the Invaders Army logged in to the forums of the Invaders Army on the evening of the 2nd of December 2005, only to realize that the Intelligence Agents of the Red Liberty Alliance and its numerous allies across the defender world had struck again! Members of the Red Liberty Alliance Intelligence Department explained that these forums had been turned offline and that more than 16.000 posts within them had been deleted while several important accounts had been looted for important information before being deleted. Members of the Committee of Military Affairs of The Proletariat Coalition, who played an important part in this operation further added that the IP’s had been secured. In addition to changing the board description to RLA property, the elusive agents with access to the administrator CP declared that the boards had been taken over by defenders from the Red Liberty Alliance and the Alliance Defense Network. Officials from the Alliance Defence Network and Nasicournian defenders were however seen refuting and denying any involvement in this operation in the shoutbox of the forums that was left intact. As the events further unfurled into the night, The Heights - members of the Invaders Command Council - restored the root admin account and re-captured the defunct boards and attempted to describe this as a victory over defenders and was echoed by members of the recently fooled Invaders Command Council who reiterated their messages of support and determination, claiming that “they would come out stronger out of this”, to the general amusement of various military figures such as Xha’dam - General Secretary of the RLA and Deputy Commander of the Red Liberty Armed Forces. The myth of the Invaders strength has now been smashed to smithereens in this era by the Red Liberty Alliance. This operation will be recorded as the third of it’s kind in this age and the beginning of the ultimate downfall of this particular invader region.

Yours truly qualified the operation as a shining success, while a member of The Central Soviet qualified this as a an appropriate correction for their insolence. Not many details are known about this operation, other than it originated in The Committee of Military Affairs in The Proletariat Coalition and that several of the RLA’s allies were involved, which has added to the general confusion that has ensued in Invaders. What is certain, in the words of The Red Factions and Ketoprofen, is that manipulation taken to the extreme, coupled with an exploitation of their naivety, were amongst the tools used in this operation. Shadowlord, member of the Command Council, was seen accusing defenders of having hacked his MSN account and issued a death threat against Sekuu/Ketoprofen that the latter qualified as pathetic but also amusing. The Red Factions, Minister of Military Affairs within The Proletariat Coalition and known agent of the Red Liberty Alliance Intelligence Department, declared that [he] had nothing to fear and confirmed that everything [had been done] within the boundaries set forth by international law. He provocatively added that invaders should feel free to push for RL legal action against [him] or anyone of the multiple participants in this operation and concluded by affirming that the agents responsible for this havoc were all clean. Other operatives further elucidated by explanining that Shadowlord's account [had] never been accessed, declaring that any statement affirming the contrary would be purely invader-fabricated lies, mindful that the admin logs would confirm this statement.

The members of the Invader Command Council have become evermore undisguised in their campaign to label the Red Liberty Alliance as a criminal organization and made use of the much expected “hacker attack” cry that has been used times over by invaders who have repeatedly been crushed by the much feared Red Liberty Alliance Intelligence Agency and it’s allies. It is neither surprising nor new to the Red Liberty Alliance that the members of the Invaders Command Council are attempting to mislead the public opinion and the one within their own organization with sheer lies – such as the fact that they would have captured a massive RLA region - intended to divert attention from the thoroughly incompetent and naive Command Council who was actively fooled and manipulated to further share vital intelligence, information and even appoint an unknown account to the position of board administrator!

It is clear as day that Invaders is completely upset by the Red Liberty Alliance’s tremendous political and military might but also great activity and unity. This destruction comes against a backdrop of increased anti-RLA propaganda where Domination qualified the Red Liberty Alliance as crumbling after declaring a captured region with little to no contact with this alliance as a RLA member to fool the world into believing that invaders had managed to seize a massive RLA region in the words of The Heights in a press release. The prevailing situation goes to prove that Invaders is in the grip of a an internal crisis and is driven into an abyss of ruin, despair, paranoia and mistrust . Flamulon, former Field Marshal of The DEN and now member of the Invaders Army questioned the “hacker theory” and openly asked weather this could have been a rogue admin and have received some echo amongst other invaders. The Command Council is now working hard to cover up and falsify the truth behind this brutal and ruthless crackdown on their organization, and it is expected that some members within Invaders will demand that DM, the director of Intelligence – characterized as the fool of the day by The Red Factions – will assume his responsibility for this crackdown and immediately resign given his actions that led to the appointment of several defenders to the position of forum administrator, as a result of the manipulations carried out by the agents of the Red Liberty Alliance and it’s allies.

Defenders and allies of the Red Liberty Alliance will continue to stage ceaseless psychological operations of all sorts against invaders and will use any means necessary to eliminate this so-called “threat” to the sovereignty and system of the Red Liberty Alliance, its friends and allies! The Red Liberty Armed Forces will continue to halt invaders every update, in the sure knowledge that we will maintain our supremacy over invaders of all sorts.

Long live the Red Liberty Alliance!

In Solidarity,
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As a neutral region, we can neither condem nor applaud this act.

As a former defender, well done lads!
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I would point out that PC is not talking in an official capacity with that second statement.

I do have a question; given the time and effort inherent in a forum and the importance of online communities to the NationStates world, could you outline the justification for deleting posts and/or a whole forum as a tactic in your battles? This is a neutral question for the sake of information and not intended to carry any judgement of such actions.
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Actually TRF, I am following the debate in The West pacific so no need to answer here unless you particulalry want to :)
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Some additional information:

Posted by Majesto on The West Pacific forum:

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*** Official NSC Announcement ***

Nasicournia has been deeply troubled by the recent events surrounding the destruction of the Invaders forum.  Although we are thankful that the original accusations of hacking have since been disproved, we remain concerned about the act of forum vandalism.  Although this type of forum vandalism is considered a legal tactic, we in Nasicournia consider it to be a serious crime of moral turpitude and will treat it as if it were a hacking.  The Nasicournian Security Council makes no distinction between any type of forum vandalism, regardless of whether any hacking or cracking was involved in gaining access to the Administrator Control Panel.

The NSC wishes to make it known that although Nasicournia is very much anti-invader, we have not, cannot, and never will agree with forum vandalism as a legitimate tactic in NationStates.

Nasicournia did not play any role in these recent events and any Nasicournian found to have taken part has no place in our region.

Majesto: Nasicournian Officer and NSC Director

*** End NSC Announcement ***


and posted by Soigacas of The Meritocracy in Europa:
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Stepping over the line
by Soigacas

The weekend’s events have written a new chapter in the history of the ongoing conflict between ‘invader’ and ‘defender’. On Saturday (Dec 3rd), The Red Factions and Ketoprofen carried out a ‘surgical strike’ in the name of the Red Liberty Alliance (RLA). In reality it was anything but that. By hacking an MSN account, they gained admin access to the Invaders’ forum and proceeded to delete over 17,000 posts and several forum sections. The RLA have denied any knowledge or involvment in this heinous attack, although Invaders dispute this, as you would expect. Since then, the Invaders have managed to reclaim some of their forum, although it remains irreparably damaged.

Immeadiatley after the publication of the article, RLA members affirmed their support of the move, most notably The Mighty Pump. However, many were quick to reconsider as the world cried foul of their tactics.

This was not an attack on ‘invaders’. This was an attack on a community. The rest of nationstates has united to condemn the perpetrators, and call for the facts to be laid bare. We talked to Blackbird, head of the RLAI:

Soigacas: I'm interested in what role you played. You edited that article. Even if you only glanced over it, surely you must have realised the magnitude of what had happened?

Blackbird: I did begin to realize what had happened.  And thus, I began a personal investigation, culminating in a report to the Executive Committee of the RLA.

Soigacas: By putting your name on that article you give the impression you support it. Do you condemn this action?

Blackbird: Yes, I do.

Soigacas: So, naming names, who is conducting the investigation?

Blackbird: Legislation for this investigation is being drawn up and voted on.  There is no one on this as-of-yet unformed Commission.

Soigacas: But TRF has left Nationstates (allegedly). How can you punish someone who isn't there?

Blackbird: Firstly, we can prevent him from returning.  Secondly, the purpose of the Commission is not solely punitive, but also to discover the total truth of the matter.  Thirdly, I imagine it may investigate other members of the RLA, such as myself, to determine if there was complicity in this crime.

Soigacas: Anyway, some have suggested the RLA should apologise to the Invader group for the actions of their members. Will you do this, or is that something for the committee to decide?

Blackbird: I certainly will personally apologize for the actions of agents acting in my Department.  I can't speak officially for the RLA.

Soigacas: Speaking in more general terms, do you think this is the culmination of a culture of hate between invaders and defenders?

Blackbird: I don't know if I'd say that.  The actions of an individual don't necessarily reflect the cultures of these two very large communities.

Soigacas: But if the situation is such that someone can carry out such a terrible attack and believe it is right, surely that cannot be good. What will we see next? Personal attacks? RL attacks?

Blackbird: There have certainly been attacks defaming perons across the gulf, but I sincerely and strongly doubt that there will ever be physical attacks in real life because of this game we all play and love.

Soigacas: Let us hope so. So, what do you think the Meritocracy should be doing at times like these?

Blackbird: I don't think I'm in a position to offer an opinion on that. I do not doubt the wisdom of the Senate.  I don't doubt that a well-reasoned and thought-out course will be plotted.
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We also talked to Xha'dam, General Secretary of the Executive Committee of the RLA:


Soigacas: What exactly happened? What are the facts? I don't see how this could have been carried out by one or two people?

Xha’dam:That is what is to be determined honestly.  From what I have gathered, Ket and RF used Shadowlord's MSN account to convince DM to create a new admin account and lock out everyone elses.  Once he did that, they took control of it and proceeded to destroy the forums

However, as implied, this is still in the preliminary phases of discovery
It only takes one admin to destroy a board.

Soigacas: Would you agree this is the result of a culture of hate towards other players?

Xha’dam:Culture of hate sound awfully "sound bite"; I think it is the result of a long history of defenders and invaders being at odds, insulting each other, threatening each other, betraying each other and a belief that victory at any cost, save the illegal, is acceptable. Over time, things escalate and when a new and more damaging way to hurt the opponent emerges, some people will seize upon it.

Soigacas: But you agree defenders have stepped over the line here?

Xha’dam:I agree two defenders stepped over the line here.

Soigacas: Isn't ironic that, when you have two groups, one supposedly good and one supposedly evil, the good one is the one that goes too far. Good has become evil?

Xha’dam:Not particularly.  Invaders have stepped over the line before as well.  If anything, this is an instnace of "when you become obsessed with the enemy, you become the enemy".

Soigacas: In more general terms, do you see this invader-defender culture persisting for eternity? Or is there any cause which could unite the two

Xha’dam:On occasion, something happens to unite the two.  However, in broad terms, for as long as NS exists with rules that permit invasions, those two factions will exist.

Soigacas: What role do you play in the RLA?

Xha’dam:Jack of all trades.  I am the General Secretary which is the "leader" of sorts of the Executive Committee which is itself
the elected governing body of the RLA.  I am also the Deputy Commander of the RLAF, second in command of our military.  I am at times a diplomat, a soldier, a politician, a mediator.  I, like much of the RLA, simply do what needs to be done.

Soigacas: So, What are you personally going to do to make sure this never happens again?

Xha’dam:To be perfectly honest, there is little I can do beyond simply never doing it myself and advising against it when asked if it should be done.  The one area of the RLA where I am least involved is the RLAI and that is where this comes up.  Once an agent of the RLA has admin control, what they do with it is entirely up to them.  If they choose to abuse it, I cannot stop them
They can be ordered not to.  We can threaten to remove them if they do, but if they are determined to destroy the invader board they will.

Soigacas: And as general secretary of the executive committee, what will you do?

Xha’dam:The General Secretary oversees the operation of the Executive Committee and Central Soviet.  Intelligence operations are entirely under the authority of the Director of the RLAI, Blackbird.

Soigacas: Anyway, do you have anything you wish to say on this topic?

Xha’dam:Only what I have already said elsewhere, before issuing judgements and condemnations, we need to wait for the facts to come out and that this was the act of individuals, not of the RLA itself.

Soigacas: Thank you for your time
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We asked Invaders' Communications Minister, Shadowlands, to comment but he declined, stating they would withhold their opinions until an internal investigation has been conducted. However, New Neo Jamaika, a Invaders Minister of Foreign Affairs, had this to say (taken from TWP forums):

It's...well, it's a blow to us. I mean, it's one thing if it's for this whole eternal conflict. We crash, they liberate, alright. They spy, we find'em, or vice versa, that's cool. But this...

I mean, it's one thing to use admin to gather information, but...the RLAI destroyed our community. I...geez. They destroyed it. Caput. Probably years of memories wiped out at the click of a button.

You all have to understand, we are all very close. A lot of people on the forums don't even raid. They're just there to talk. We had a whole bunch of stuff. I mean, it was just general stuff. Like, this RP Heights was talking about? It was called, 'Remnant of the Dominion'. Heights said about two pages were saved. Recent stuff's gone.

What really hurts, though, is the RLA people responsible, Ketoprofen and The Red Factions. To see that article was horrible. I mean, I just recently found out Ketoprofen was a long-time Invader, Sekuu, so it was like a personal blow to see him deface something he knew was more then a planning center of military operations. He. Knew. It.And I'm saying he and The Red Factions did this because, well, who wrote the article?

And finally, this: the RLA can hold all the trials, and mumble, 'I'm Sorry!' all they want, but in the end, they don't mean it. They don't care about annhilating our community, they just didn't expect it to backfire on them. They didn't care when they did this to DEN. They didn't care when they did this to the Black Hawks. And they don't care now. They arent sorry. They were gloating and patting themselves on the back.

Any apology from them would be insincere. And any trial would be, to. Cause it isn't justice. It's throwing one of their own to the wolves to save face amongst RLA allies.

Honestly, though, I'll miss not being able to log on and looking to see if their are any new posts, as well as reflecting, and going to find that time when we all talk about so-and-so, or when this person was still active.

So, thanks RLA. Thanks for ruining our community at Invaders.
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All in all, whether this was merely the act of two rogue defenders or a full-scale RLA operation, only time will tell. The RLA are not sure where they stand, passing the buck back and forth. Everyone seems to be promising an investigation. One thing, however, is sure. This was an uncalled for and cowardly attack, which the NS community will not stand for. Any action must not be rushed into with haste in an attempt at swift retribution, but eventually, justice will be done.
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In case you hadn't realised I am posting these as I understand TRF has left the game as a result of these events.

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The Executive Council and Command Staff of the Red Liberty Alliance hereby condemn the actions taken in regards to the destruction of the Invaders Boards. We consider these actions to be the work of individuals and not reflective of the RLA as a whole. The Executive Committee and Command Staff of the RLA had no prior knowledge that agents of the RLAI would be carrying out this attack; nor did they possess any knowledge as to the details surrounding the attack until after it was over.

The EC and Command Staff also commit to conduct a complete and thorough investigation of the attack, the results of which will be made public. As part of the investigative process, we recommend an outside observer will take part in the investigation. Lanier, of the West Pacific, has agreed to act as this observer. He would examine the same evidence as the investigators and issue his own impartial report on the facts. At the conclusion of this investigation, the investigative panel will issue a recommendation on how to act on the findings which will then be submitted to the Central Soviet for consideration.

In the mean time, we urge everyone to be calm and wait for the facts to come about before issuing any judgements of their own.

Xha'dam
General Secretary of the RLA, Executive Committee Member, Deputy Commander of the RLAF

Bamada
Executive Committee Member

Dobbyniania
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Equality-Liberty
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La Tropicana
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Blackbird
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EuroSoviets
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Dec 6 2005, 09:15 AM
In case you hadn't realised I am posting these as I understand TRF has left the game as a result of these events.

Oh! :o

I wonder for how long, though...
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from what i have read above, deleting posts and accounts etc. seems extreme, nay, out of line!!
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Man. so thats how war works. interesting... Yet quite pathetic.
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If y'all have any questions feel free to ask me. I will answer them to the best of my ability.
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Thanks Bamada, very good of you to step up :)
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i have a question.... as a player of Nation States, the writer of "The Free Port" act, and as a major backer of medation over military action i feel i must ask.

From what i have read one 2 people are being pined for this attack, TRF being one of them. This is not the first time TRF has moved his way up to the inner ranks of an invader group and dismanteled their offsite fourm. sadly this happened during my younger days in nation states and i do not have the articals to back my story up. But this behavour has shown up before and with the same people, shouldn't there have been limitations set into place to stop such actions again?

I respect what the RLA does, but look at what it has come down to. What has transpired here is not only steping past any deffinition of "Defender" but akin to dropping the "Bomb" to make a statment. it is all well and good to have halted this groups activities, but repercutions have melted away years of gameplay, a libriary of memories, and a valt of history of the Nation States world. when we leave this world only our words linger and now so many have been lost, why has is come down to this? Is it not better to Liberate, and and Defend then it is to Dismantle, and distory?

We all know that many of the people in the RLA do feel like these actions are just and good, and many players feel that this will just be covered up will 2 IP bans and a song and dance to make it all look good, but what will be done to make sure this never happens again?

these are the questions i ask, and it pains me so much to have seen such an act commited by a group of people that prides itself on the defence of the nation states community.

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That was a really powerful statement, CM. I don't think anyone could have said it better in anyway. :P

I consider myself a defender and part of a defender region. I've taken part in only a handful of defending mission, but I'm proud to have helped those regions against invasion and to have secured the region for those who want it to remain how it was.

This move, whilst it may be "justified" by the fact a large amount of intelligence has been gather, I suspect that the experience has ruined many people's enjoyment of the game, something that we must all strive to avoid. Defending and invading is another aspect of NationStates, but move has stepped way beyond the line. The deletion of posts was probably just a malicious move against the invaders, used to annoy, anger and sadden them.

NationStates should be taken in good humour, but all this does is leave a very sour taste in the majority of people's mouths, not just those who have had this act performed against them.

These are my opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the region I represent and am a part of.
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IP’s had been secured


does this mean they stormed another board and obtain IP addresses for players?
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Yes. There is a large amount of IP harvesting and trading that goes on in the NS world. Not here I might add. Ours are kept as purely OOC resources for the identification of banned members only.
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