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| Evolution?; Science vs. Religion | |
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| Topic Started: Aug 16 2007, 04:05 PM (1,129 Views) | |
| apetroline | Feb 11 2008, 11:36 PM Post #81 |
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if evolution is real then why are there still monekys and apes? there would be none, there would have changed into humans then. |
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| youngmessage | Feb 12 2008, 12:13 AM Post #82 |
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Evolution is simply the therory that when that animals change over time if need be evolution is real no doubt there it too much evidence it just states in a certain case a animal will change to survive its enviorment which is true but it take millions of years. Now the ? people really worry about now it creationism belief that maybe God created everything but he allowed animals to evole but then again that kinda goes against the bible who know what or why you believe what you belive but my thoughts is evolution might be real but then again it doesnt affect me much just another social issue like gay marriage (not gonna go there believe that.) Although it does sound stupid how there are 6billion people and still monekys left. I believe humans were here along with the monkey we might have evolved from another homo type of human type not monkeys. No disrespect to posters but remember this is a post with all do respect treat me with it , think before you post. |
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| Inta_Xonem | Feb 12 2008, 08:53 AM Post #83 |
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It's like 98/99% of our DNA we share with them. But that one/two percent of DNA we don't share is a huge difference. It's like casting 2% of the population of earth as unsignificant. If I got my math right, that's 120 million people. That's not really insignificant. And then, we share 93% of our DNA with a banana. Also, if we evolved from monkies, why is it that there aren't any of the midstages left between now and the original monkey. Surely at least one of them could have survived.
Well you could put it that way.
We might learn from research, but to be honest, we can live our lives without knowing these things, and some research has caused inventions which are destroying the planet. |
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| Trainer X | Feb 12 2008, 09:18 PM Post #84 |
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About 2% of gorilla DNA is shared with chimpanzees and other monkeys too. But they're all monkeys, right?
Don't know where you heard that, but it's physically impossible, starting with the facts that they're fruits born from plants while we're human, that we have moveable body parts and organs, and that we're not yellow and grown from trees.
You didn't answer my question. If dinosaurs didn't put the fossils there, then what did? If God put them there, don't you think that something else would have found them first? Not all of them were hidden that deep into the ground, you know.
We can, but that doesn't mean we should. We could live our entire lives believing that the Earth is round and is also the center of the universe, can't we? I know some inventions destroy the Earth (I'm a strong believer in global warming, for example), but you don't create inventions from research. You create inventions from inventing, and, in some cases, from trial and error. Technically, Christianity formed from research on Jesus' part (it actually originated a bit differently, and in a way that didn't involve Jesus at all, but I'm not going to go into that now), and we can live without that, can't we? |
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| Inta_Xonem | Feb 12 2008, 09:42 PM Post #85 |
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Um, I'm pretty intrigued to here this now. Explain please.
What do you mean? What would've found them first, and why would it be different if it was God rather than dinosaurs?
If it wasn't 93% it was 92%. I can't remember were I heard it from but I'm convinced it was a reliable source. I don't know much about DNA, so I won't be able to respond much on that case. Also, I have two big anti-evolution ideas you haven't responded to,
And why did we loose the fur when we evolved? Surely that'd be helpful for keeping warm. |
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| Trainer X | Feb 13 2008, 12:27 AM Post #86 |
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Alright, I'll run over the basics. First of all, Jesus was Jewish from the moment he came into the world until the moment he left it. All twelve (or was it thirteen?) apostles were also Jewish. You know the painting 'The Last Supper' by Leonardo Da Vinci? That was a Passover seder. The Jewish people also played no part in Jesus' death, although some Catholics believed that the Jews played a major part. Anyway, Christianity actually first formed at least a hundred years AFTER Jesus' death as a sect of Judaism. I could say a few more things about how it formed, but they'd sound unreasonably biased, so I'm going to leave them out.
Simple things would have found them first. Winds would have blown away the earth above them, and dogs and other scavengers would have removed them from the ground. And, even if you claim God put everything on this planet, you have to agree that there is a explanation of some sort for everything, every natural phenomena. And the only reasonable one for fossils is that they came from something.
We're doing genetics in biology class, so I can tell you that bananas share almost no DNA with humans, sorry to tell you.
A. Evolution happens in stages. Only one species of monkey evolved, obviously. And all of the offspring of one generation would be the next step up the evolutionary ladder. When the previous generation dies off, that rung of the ladder is gone forever, which answers your question. And we are evolving in the same way now, although you might not see it. What you asked is basically, "Why aren't there any ancient Egyptians left? Surely at least one of them could have survived." B. Yes, but the climates that all humans lived in at one point or another were too warm to make fur useful. It also obstructs movement and can weigh you down while swimming. And if you didn't notice, we have kept a lot of the fur. Check out your head, your armpits, your arms, your legs, your chest, your back, and plenty of other places. |
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| youngmessage | Feb 13 2008, 01:55 AM Post #87 |
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Well this all does sound great lets approach this one at a time become we have 2 parts in a issue? Is evolution real ? Possibles answers yes or no If yes -reason for answer believe everything thats told to you you have evidence dont believe in god its seems more/the most logical If no -reasons for answer close minded dont believe in the evidence a rebel belief in creationism just dont add up whatever it may be for one wether you believe in christ I believe if he isnt real the best thing this has done for us is limit the evilness in the world for a small part and 2 if there is a god we cannot measure him to our standards because we a mere human you never know what is real we might die and meet god and realize every thought was wrong. (thats all Im going to say on this.) But you all are saying christianity derived from something years after christ death isnt it possible thats what they called it, I mean if you said it was around before him then that would make everything messed up. As for evolution parts make sense others dont , who knows but good luck and nice with everyone proving there side I dont know i just love debates and that whole thins above is just showing the basic answer and reason so far. |
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| Sprite Killer | Feb 13 2008, 02:33 PM Post #88 |
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When humans started to wear animals' furs, most of their own fur started to disappear, because there wasn't so much need for it. That's how I understand it. I think there's enough good evidence to prove that evolution is real. I don't believe in things I'd just have to believe without any concrete evidence, therefor I don't believe in creationism or God. If people insist to believe that evolution is not real, then let them believe. It's not actually my business. ^ Now I'm wondering why I even posted in this topic. Well, whatever... ~The End~ |
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| Midnight Umbreon | Feb 21 2008, 02:05 AM Post #89 |
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Okay, proposal, how do we know that God created humans the way we are now? Personally, being an atheist, I think that if there is a God, that he didn't just pop out some humans just like us. I'm sure that they wouldn't have spoken any language that is still around today, they would've been naked of course, and they wouldn't have been intelligent by our standards at all. But you get where I'm going right? Perhaps God created apes and monkeys and we did evolve from them. The Bible also says that God created us in his own image. How do we even know that we are what God created? Perhaps Noah was some monkey and he put two of what we call humans on the ark and we simply reproduced so much that we became the dominating race on the planet and we assumed that we are the same race as Noah or whoever else was. Just some food for thought... Off-Topic: This is an awkward first post... |
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