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| The Correct Religion | |
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| Topic Started: May 7 2008, 09:49 PM (968 Views) | |
| Dan | May 7 2008, 09:49 PM Post #1 |
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WARNING! DO NOT FLAME IN HERE! WE HAD THAT PROBLEM A YEAR AGO, AND IT HURT PMF BIGTIME, BUT I THINK WE MATURED. IF YOU DISAGREE, DO NOT SAY THINGS LIKE "ROFL YOU'RE RETARDED." MAKE A GOOD POINT ON WHY YOU THINK YOU ARE RIGHT. Yeah. So what do you think is the "correct" religion, or what religions do you think are flawed? I think Christianity is a bit flawed. Sure, Jesus existed, and sure, he died for "your sins" but he probably did not come back to life. And the Virgin Mary? She was just someone who really stuck to her story. |
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| rosalieart | May 7 2008, 09:56 PM Post #2 |
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i think that religion is flat out silly and a waste of my time. obviously i'm atheist, if you couldn't tell by that, but all the religious crud turns into flames and prejudice and creationism and things getting in the way of science and progression. if there's a deity out there, they aren't taking care of the earth too well, and if we don't believe in them, apparently we end up screwed over. pff. better off without it. particularly when, as a born jew, and i say that, people go, 'HOLY MEEP!' like i have an extra head. it's really irritating. and it enters into POLITICAL RACES now, which is absolutely ridiculous. religion is fantasy grown from base fact and turned into a narrow minded set of rules. please insert many or most in front of the word religion to avoid generalization. i also hate how it seems like christianity is taking over the world and is regarded as, in this country, at least where i am, as the only thing out there, because there are so many people who won't look from another angle. T.T atheism is just so much easier, and it makes more sense. |
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| Ilex | May 7 2008, 09:58 PM Post #3 |
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Every belief has its flaws. Evolution? Humans have been drowning for hundreds of thousands of years yet somehow we do not have gills. I am Catholic, but I only follow the new testament. The old testament is too outdated, mistranslated and literal to be believable. I think that Christianity morals, not necessarily the history or stories, is the best way to go. Don't steal, kill, commit adultery etc. are all good values to live by. Compared to other belief systems this is the best. You may say that it's the same as Jewish rules, but Judaism has like 650 rules to follow, and that's simply just too much and some of them are really stupid (Can only walk 3/4 a km on Sabbath). |
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| Leviathan | May 7 2008, 10:09 PM Post #4 |
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There is no "correct religion". You're just asking for a flame war- people will do anything to defend their religion, and this is shown time and time again. Judaism and Christianity coexist today, let's keep it that way... I guess Hindus, Sikhs, and I'm sure other religions coexist as well. You're just looking for trouble Danny; you want to start a flame war. Teenagers don't watch soap operas, they have to make their lives one. Also, I'm pretty sure you're forgetting about the farfetchedness of some Old Testament tales; don't say that Jesus' resurrection/ lack of birth father is the oddest thing you've read in religious folklore. |
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| DDR Master | May 8 2008, 12:11 AM Post #5 |
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I don't really care. People can believe in whatever religion they want to because it's their mind. If you are American, the first amendment says so. The right to free speech, press, RELIGION, petition, assembly. |
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| Phizzle | May 8 2008, 12:33 AM Post #6 |
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You know the saying: Don't change anything. Ever.
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My beliefs exactly. As far as I see it, you nailed it right on the head. |
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| Cardz5000 | May 8 2008, 11:08 AM Post #7 |
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This is a completely inaccurate view of Evolution, evolution occurs when a mutation that benefits the organism occurs thus allowing the mutant to function better than it's "normal" counterparts and be more likely to pass on it's genetics that include the mutation. That being said, humans have F***ed up this proses, we have made drugs and glasses and all sorts of other things to help people with defects (Bad eyesight, general frailty, mental retardation) to be able to pass on their "bad" DNA on to the next generation. Now as far as gills go, there are two issues, the first is that if a child were born with gills we would have them removed surgically (or MOST parents would, and ANY doctor would sagest it) The 2nd problem is the complexity of gills, it would take hundreds of generations to fully develop them and each generation is typically 25-35 years apart to that's around 3000 years for a mutation of gills assuming that none of those cosmetic surgeon get their hands on the "Mutants" Now, as far as religion goes I'm a Quaker or a member of the "Society of Friends" (two different names for the same thing) Quakerism is a branch of Christianity that focuses on non-violence or pacifism... I dunno what else to say... you can ask me questions if you wish |
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| Penguin | May 8 2008, 04:12 PM Post #8 |
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Well, he's a platypus. They don't do much.
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I lol when people say it's a bad things humans try to improve themselves. Glasses, etc. I mean. Humans are considerably weak compared to other animals, and have no natural defenses. It doesn't ruin evolution because just because evolution is interrupted doesn't mean that's necessarily a bad thing. I am a revised Catholic (meaning Catholic with a few of the moral things changed, such as sex only for reproduction) and I believe that is the correct religion. I believe some obvious evolution has occurred over time, and the Bible's evolution theory is a little off (if God said not to eat a fruit, no one would be stupid enough to eat it), but I believe God did create humans. Think of it this way. People sometimes tell people their pets look like them. If the Darwinist evolution theory was correct, humans could have evolved from a multitude of animals. And just because apes and humans are genetically similar doesn't mean anything. A lot of animals that are totally unsimilar could have the same amount of genes or whatever. Also, for the atheists, what annoys me now is most atheists have no actual reason not to believe in God. It's more of a fashion statement than a religion. People think it's cool. They want to go against the crowd, or with the crowd if a lot of others are athiest. Then after that, most of them just find these theories to have some kind of 'proof' or 'reason.' A few people are exceptions; for example, if someone's mother had cancer, and they prayed every day and was obedient and their mother still died, that would be a valid REASON for someone to be atheist. Not just 'I don't feel like believing.' And for those of you who believe God is doing a poor job of watching humans: he is not our bodyguard. He is not our maid. And, quite frankly, we have nothing to be saved from. No evil entity has engulfed the planet. He can't save us from other humans because they get what they deserve in the afterlife. People can't rely solely on God to fix their problems, they have to work some of it out themselves, and if they live moral lives, God will help them. |
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| Ilex | May 8 2008, 04:22 PM Post #9 |
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[/thread] Lol, PG just owned this topic. I agree with him 100%. |
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| rosalieart | May 8 2008, 04:23 PM Post #10 |
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so what you're saying is if we want a dying family member to heal we have to pray? tough ****. it doesn't work. ever. i know at least 5 people whose parent(s) have died of cancer and they prayed themselves into thinking everything was going to be alright, and then the person died and they become depressed. praying doesn't do anything. if you want to mutter into the air, then have fun. don't expect me to join in. and there is no good and evil, just millions of shades of grey. |
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| Penguin | May 8 2008, 04:26 PM Post #11 |
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Well, he's a platypus. They don't do much.
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That's not what I meant. I meant if something like that occur, that would be a reason to go atheist. And praying is meant to help, not to guarantee anything. Edit:
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| rosalieart | May 8 2008, 04:37 PM Post #12 |
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so now that means if you agree with atheist ideals and disagree with religion, but don't have a 'reason', you should be religious? t.t |
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| Phizzle | May 8 2008, 05:02 PM Post #13 |
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You know the saying: Don't change anything. Ever.
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Agreeing with atheist ideals would be a reason. PG is just saying that a lot of people say they're atheist as a kind of "fashion statement". |
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| Penguin | May 8 2008, 05:43 PM Post #14 |
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Well, he's a platypus. They don't do much.
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Atheist ideals? The entire point of atheism (if any) is that you DON'T have ideals and DON'T have a religion. I believe if you have no reason NOT to believe, you should at least try unless something tragic (as stated above) changes your mind. |
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| rosalieart | May 8 2008, 06:16 PM Post #15 |
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why? atheist ideals, to me, is that your theories are you own, and there's nothing out there, or something that isn't god. and again, why should i try to believe in something i have no belief in? |
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| Penguin | May 8 2008, 06:47 PM Post #16 |
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Well, he's a platypus. They don't do much.
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That's not what I mean. It's been proven that Christians or people of similar religions have generally led moral, happy lives. It gives you something to live by. You don't have to follow every belief. Some people don't give religion a chance. Have you tried reading a few pages from the Bible? Have you said a prayer or two just to see if anything happened? I don't mean you have to convert. But religion's good to try if you don't usually. :D |
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| rosalieart | May 8 2008, 06:58 PM Post #17 |
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yes, i have. made me miserable. bible was utter crud - to me- and..... one word. crusades. they were such good people, murdering them all for their religion. they obviously had great morals.*/sarcasm* and so do 90% of the REST of the human population as well. T.T you should live by what YOU think- not what some corrupted old book says. |
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| Penguin | May 8 2008, 07:03 PM Post #18 |
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Well, he's a platypus. They don't do much.
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The Crusades were many, MANY years ago. Things like that were more commonly accepted back then. And I do live by what I think. For instance, the Bible says to only have sex after you're married. My belief is that you should only have sex for reproduction, with only what's necessary (at the most accurate time of conception, no looking, or less likely/non-impregnating sex). I'm weird like that. And why did the Bible make you miserable? I've even heard of atheists who read it for the sake of good literature. o_O |
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| Silfa | May 8 2008, 07:25 PM Post #19 |
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The crusades. Isn't one of the commandments like "thou shall not kill"? I don't actually know, it's just I find it kinda stupid. It's like, they bended the rules of their religion for their religion. Feel free to correct me here, because I'm not completely sure about what I've said. "Humans don't have gills". We don't have gills because we're mammals. Whales don't have gills, niether do dolphins, and they live their entire lives underwater. We would need huge gills and there isn't enough oxygen in water for us (as warm-blooded animals) for it to be worth it compared to air. Then there's the whole thing how gills work. Yeah. I'm not getting into this debate. At this point anyway. |
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| rosalieart | May 8 2008, 07:25 PM Post #20 |
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not the bible. that was just a work of fiction and i got bored with it. XD the whole concept of that i have to be good for god or else i burn in hell was just depressing- plus all the good stuff would be in hell, all that corrupting stuff, internet for one, which makes me procrastinate, and fast food, and chocolate! XD i hate the feeling that all i am is an ant. i want o be me- not someone beneath this big all powerful THING that decides my fate and that i apparently am supposed to spend my life pleasing. |
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