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Gay/Bi Formation
Topic Started: Mar 26 2008, 06:01 PM (246 Views)
Penguin
Well, he's a platypus. They don't do much.
Do you think gay/bi people are naturally gay/bi, or do you believe it is a choice?

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I believe that society is so against gay/bi people, if people think they may even be slightly gay/bi, they will act it until they psychologically believe that they are. I don't have anything against gay/bi people, I just believe some people are too quick to make that decision. I mean, if it wasn't a choice, wouldn't there be a special chromosome or something in which they can detect or predict it before you are born? If there is, feel free to correct me. XD
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Ilex
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Hillary '08!
They did a study and found that homosexual men tend to more frequently have female characteristics, ie. a longer pointer finger than ring finger. So I believe that it is genetic to an extent, maybe a certain gene effects their mentality in such a way that it can change their sexuality.
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Anzel
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Other animal species tend to have homosexual characteristics as well, so I have a feeling it -is- genetic, to an extent. But, you have to realize how complex a single strand of DNA is, let alone a whole chromosome. I mean, we've been able to map out the DNA of one tiny little bacteria, I believe, but that's just one tiny little thing. Imagine how complex humans must be.

You can never be entirely sure about these things without proper evidence, though, but I doubt a person would become bi or gay just because they had a fake suspicion unless they had other factors in their life that might cause them to...yeah.

I know parents are protesting a new book (king & king) because they fear that when their kids read it, it'll make them gay <<;
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Penguin
Well, he's a platypus. They don't do much.
I also mean things like 'I like this pink shirt, I must be gay' or 'I like gardening, I must be gay,' then they act gay because of that.

In addition to what was said above. XD
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Nevermore
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i'm bi, and i think it's a mixture of genetics and upbringing.
i don't think it's totally choice in that... you know, any straight guys online now, think you could wake up one day and go 'hmm, i think i'll get a boyfriend!'? thinks like that aren't chosen anymore than you can choose to like the taste of something. if you like it you like it, if you don't, you don't.
then there's the upbringing thing. if you're brought up in a very anti gay/bi household, like you're from a really religious family or something, then could you be 'trained' to be straight? i had a friend who was from a very christian family, and her and her sister and parents were all casually homophobic wihtout realising it... if you were broght up beleiving certain feelings were wrong, could you learn to ignore them? i was brought up in a very liberal household, allowed to prettymuch act/dress/think like i want and form my own opinions. XD that may be why i've been able to grow up interested in things other people my own age would go 'wtf?' at, like pokemon and taxidermy...
then, what about the oposite? children adopted by a gay couple, for instance? are they more likely to turn out gay too?

ok, i'm done. *goes back to drawing*
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Anzel
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Those people...meh. They're not gay, they're just kind-of...well...they're imbeciles. And maybe something in their life has caused them a bit of mental damage, so...yeah. Like being abused as a kid can cause some people to act out in odd ways. *pokes her old friend*

At least, for the most part, people who are gay or bi are actually gay or bi. I do know alot of people who act gay or bi but really aren't. They just do it to be 'cool'. -Acting- gay is 'in', apparently <<; Which is kinda weird, lol.
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Nevermore
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i know that sort of person...
my sister's friend kelly... for about a year she was a 'lesbian', and did all the total stereotypical things like cutting her hair short. man, people like that are annoying. like... sexuality is a fashion acessory or something.
she has a boyfriend last we heard of her.
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Anzel
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Guys at my school like to go up to each other and pretend to hump each other :/ Some wear girls pants (ouch), and...it's creepy.

There are a ton of bi people at my school, but they aren't screaming it to the world. I don't think there's a single gay person in my entire school, just bi people o.o Which is odd...
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butter
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trying her best
There was something I wanted to say.. umm..
Oh yes.
In response to Ilex, I'm a girl and my ring finger is longer than my pointer.
So what do you say that means? o3o

lol maybe that's why it took me so long to learn to draw hands, and they still look weird. xD;;
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Anzel
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Wait...my ring finger is longer than my pointer finger, too...and I'm completely straight, and sure of it o.o
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Ilex
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Hillary '08!
It doesn't mean that you're lesbians (Which isn't a bad thing >D>), it's just more common among homosexuals.

My pointer is longer on one hand and my ring longer on the other.
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butter
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If I twist and tilt my fingers to one side, I can make my pointer longer. xD;;
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Crystal Sev
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Well. . . if it were a choice, then most people wouldn't be gay or anything, right?

Most of it is just psychology, such as men having poor father figures when growing up and never being able to feel the love that daddy should have given them, therefore making seek the extra comforts of other men and act womanly because it's the only model that they've had throughout their childhood. Same thing for a lesbian, but switch the dad with mom, and etc.

Dunno about being Bi though. . .
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Shed
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I think it is entirely genetic, at least in it's origin. It's definately not a choice - that'd be like consciously deciding to prefer Coke over Pepsi.

What happens is that some people are exposed to homophobic attitudes that may hinder their willingness to assume homosexuality, or for some reason they are too little exposed to the possibility of being homo and thus don't consider it, or some series of other situations that keep them from declaring themselves gay. They may still find out later on that they are in fact gay.

And then there are the people who act gay although they are not really. This may be due to a variety of reasons I do not feel the need of going over, since most are basically opposites of the situations I listed above.
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Neurogenesis
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Ok, usually gays don't have kids, right?

So..

How exactly would a gay gene be passed on? It would have died out a while ago.
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Hillary '08!
If all the gingers in the world stopped breeding, the ginger gene would still live on because it is in all the relatives of the gingers, and two non-gingers could produce a ginger child.

Probably the same for the gay gene.
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Also, they can still have a kid. It's just they can't both be the biological parent.
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187666
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Err.. It's not a gene, whatever the **** it is.
I wasn't so certain about telling everyone, coz everyone's homophobic here (Not all, just a majority are), and it wasn't a choice, took me three long hard weeks of thinking to come up with the answer for my feelings. Those three weeks felt more like a year. In response to Sev, your's was purdy dang accurate really. I've spent very little time with my father in the past 7 years, and I've changed because of that, but I still had interaction with him, so I still had a fatherly figure. Plus I has a stepdad, so yeh..
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