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PMA
Topic Started: Dec 26 2007, 06:16 PM (355 Views)
Quate	Dec 26 2007, 06:16 PM Post #1
RUN HE IS BESIDE YOU Posts: 1,957 Group: Member + Member #578 Joined: February 18, 2006	In case you're wondering, I put this in the wrong forum intentionally; I did not want to have the poll of the moment go unnoticed. But, back on topic: Unless if someone objects, I would like to coordinate the construction of PMA (Pokemon Mutation Academy). Here are some ideas: PMA can be a redirect forum, so it is space efficient and anyone who doesn't want to join doesn't have to. Although it doesn't have to be, that is what I recommend. The skin could be a cool blue; relaxes the mind when trying to sprite. Green, especially this one, intensifies the body and does not calm. There could be 4 categories: Kindergarten Courses, Beginner Courses, Intermediate Courses, and Advanced Courses. Kindergarten could be excluded, as it isn't really spriting. It would contain the following sub-forums: Opening Paint, Other Methods, and Spriting FAQ. Beginner could include: Basic Editing, Recoloring, Revamping/Devamping, and Element Changing. Intermediate could include: Splicing, Advanced Editing, Shading, and Outlining. Advanced could include: Scratching, Pixel-Overing, and Pixel Art. Each teacher would make a topic in each sub-forum they would like to teach in. Then the students that would like to be taught would post in the teachers' topics. After that, another topic for each teacher would be created, and that is where the teaching begins. The teacher would give out a test to do. Like, the Pixel-Over teacher would tell their students to make a Teddiursa Pixel-Over. The teacher would comment and critisize it. After several tests, the teacher would tell each student whether they passed and why. The students would have a choice to sign up again or not. Whew.



sherlock.	Dec 26 2007, 06:37 PM Post #2
resident adolescent. Posts: 2,372 Group: Veterans Member #440 Joined: November 6, 2005	but you don't need a whole redirect forum for a single person to go "make me this sprite" "work on outlines" "no u fail". the people who WOULD become the teachers, why can't they just crit? Although I could do with the lessons and like the idea. It seems a bit OTT.



Quate	Dec 26 2007, 07:03 PM Post #3
RUN HE IS BESIDE YOU Posts: 1,957 Group: Member + Member #578 Joined: February 18, 2006	What is OTT? Anyway, the problem is you can do that now. And nobody wants to. Face it: Rating is boring. But would you rather rate 4 or 5 sprites once a week, in the category you specialize in, or constantly rate random sprites in completely different categories?



Penguin	Dec 26 2007, 07:30 PM Post #4
Well, he's a platypus. They don't do much. Posts: 2,636 Group: PMR Assistant Member #229 Joined: June 23, 2005	Maybe do it like PMR, in the Production Wing?



sherlock.	Dec 26 2007, 07:35 PM Post #5
resident adolescent. Posts: 2,372 Group: Veterans Member #440 Joined: November 6, 2005	Ya I know @ Quate. I was arguing against it, and then I remembered that. But I already click post. ;x



Quate	Dec 26 2007, 07:41 PM Post #6
RUN HE IS BESIDE YOU Posts: 1,957 Group: Member + Member #578 Joined: February 18, 2006	PenguinGengar Dec 26 2007, 03:30 PM Maybe do it like PMR, in the Production Wing? Good idea. So now the only outstanding question is this: When will PMA take place? New year?



187666	Dec 26 2007, 07:48 PM Post #7
Boredom Strikes Again. Posts: 654 Group: Member Member #1,111 Joined: August 24, 2007	New Year sounds good, gives time to organise it.



Phizzle	Dec 26 2007, 07:52 PM Post #8
You know the saying: Don't change anything. Ever. Posts: 2,665 Group: Administrators Member #313 Joined: August 24, 2005	Personally, I don't think that's enough time. I think we should forget about setting an open date and just open it when it's ready.



3d	Dec 26 2007, 07:58 PM Post #9
Chicken Xing Posts: 1,423 Group: WoS Assistant Member #1,099 Joined: July 29, 2007	Is there even a set staff or committee that's going to be working on it? If there isn't, that should be the focus right now.



Quate	Dec 26 2007, 08:11 PM Post #10
RUN HE IS BESIDE YOU Posts: 1,957 Group: Member + Member #578 Joined: February 18, 2006	I do believe it should have its own mods, however not too many; this won't require that much work.



3d	Dec 26 2007, 08:14 PM Post #11
Chicken Xing Posts: 1,423 Group: WoS Assistant Member #1,099 Joined: July 29, 2007	Two mods should be able to handle it, three at the most.



Quate	Dec 26 2007, 08:27 PM Post #12
RUN HE IS BESIDE YOU Posts: 1,957 Group: Member + Member #578 Joined: February 18, 2006	Yep. So, we need a skin for it, too. As I suggested, cool blue works.



Ripred	Dec 26 2007, 08:39 PM Post #13
You were meant to rule the dark, I was meant to see the sun Posts: 7,797 Group: Member + Member #137 Joined: March 13, 2005	Unless you're going to make it a seperate forum, another skin for a different part of the forum would require coding. a LOT of coding.



Quate	Dec 26 2007, 08:43 PM Post #14
RUN HE IS BESIDE YOU Posts: 1,957 Group: Member + Member #578 Joined: February 18, 2006	True, but what I meant by redirect forum is a whole new forum. Sorry for unclear.



Phizzle	Dec 26 2007, 09:40 PM Post #15
You know the saying: Don't change anything. Ever. Posts: 2,665 Group: Administrators Member #313 Joined: August 24, 2005	I don't think we need a new forum. We're trying to attract people to this one, no? It leaves a whole lot of extra work to be done. I'd rather have it be a redirect, or even make it a full subforum (which IIRC we have done in the past)



Shed	Dec 26 2007, 10:00 PM Post #16
Don't go in the Shed! Posts: 10,926 Group: Administrator Member #1 Joined: September 25, 2004	Quate, sorry to break it to you, but what you described is almost exactly what we did in the past, and it didn't work. Teachers wouldn't do their job, members would complain about it being a separate forum, and everything like that. If you want to do it, I suggest several differences. First, make it like the current PMR, as a hidden category accessible through a redirect forum in the Production Wing, and PenGar suggested. Second, don't have only one teacher for each area. Have maybe two or three for each area, with repetitions allowed. Third, don't have a set classrom structure nor a pass/fail sceme. I would make it more like "Can you rate this pixel-over, please?" instead, or maybe allow the teachers to define a little something. For example, to recieve regular PO reviews the teacher may request that first the member submit a Teddiura PO as a standardized initial evaluation. In this case PMA (with a better name) would entirely replace the Training Area (and yes, I have a working forum structure in mind).



Quate	Dec 26 2007, 11:14 PM Post #17
RUN HE IS BESIDE YOU Posts: 1,957 Group: Member + Member #578 Joined: February 18, 2006	Shed Dec 26 2007, 06:00 PM Second, don't have only one teacher for each area. Have maybe two or three for each area, with repetitions allowed. This is what I was implying. Shed, you give me a headache. Really, I couldn't at all understand that last paragraph. XD



Shed	Dec 26 2007, 11:43 PM Post #18
Don't go in the Shed! Posts: 10,926 Group: Administrator Member #1 Joined: September 25, 2004	You were suggesting a set classroom structure (a predefined structure with assignments and tests) and a pass/fail scheme, whihc I don't think should be used. Instead, I suggest that each section include a tutorial (or more) on that type of spriting, and simply a space for directed reviews by the teachers. If anything, have the teacher(s) select an assignment which must be completed before the member can recieve other reviews. In this case, PMA would substitute the Training Area. Its structure would be something like: - Kindergarten Courses - [Specific Courses] - Assorted Training - Spriter Test -----Spriter Test Voting The Course boards would have a level of difficulty (1-3, 0 for Kindergarten) noted in the description and would be ordered accordingly. Assorted Training would include any other Tutorials and all Rating requests that are not directed at teachers.



3d	Dec 26 2007, 11:50 PM Post #19
Chicken Xing Posts: 1,423 Group: WoS Assistant Member #1,099 Joined: July 29, 2007	Quote: Spriting School Ranks: Student- To participate in the Spriting School as a student, simply state that you want to join in the sign-up topic. Also include what sprite you specialize in (i.e. mixes, scratches, edits.) and you�ll be paired up with a teacher who specializes in the same category. Please include all that you specialize in. If you have problems with the schedule please talk it out with the teacher. Teacher/Tutor- To become a teacher/tutor you have to be a spriter. PM the principal (leader of the forum) and you will receive a test that has obvious flaws in the sprite. You will be expected to identify a certain number of these mistakes to pass. If you don�t meet the expectation you will have to wait two weeks before you request another test. If a teacher will be absent for a planned amount of days please mention it in the Paid Days Off thread. Also if you have enough time, please include a day plan for your substitute. Substitute- A substitute can either join using the same way as the teachers, except you have to state you that you want to be a substitute only, or an existing teacher/tutor can request to become a substitute only or a teacher/substitute. The job of a substitute is simple. When a teacher states that they will be absent in either the Arrivals and Departures forum or the Paid days off thread the leader of the forum will PM the substitute and ask him/her to fill in and teach the students that the absent teacher teaches. The PM will include what types of sprites the students do and if the absent teacher has prepared day plans for the students the PM will also include the plan. System: The school week begins on Monday, (Opening date will be planned to start on a Monday.) and ends on Friday. Students and teachers will have off on Saturday and Sunday, but remember teachers, you have to write reviews and grades for a weeks worth of sprites, so either get it done during the week or finish it up during the weekend. Grades and reviews are expected to be posted right after you finish them, that way you don�t procrastinate or forget about it. Please try to get reviews and grades done before the next school week. Here is the suggested schedule to let students have fun and so that teachers aren�t over stressed. Monday- Student�s choice: Students can start out the week by choosing what they want to do depending on what category they�re placed in. Tuesday- Teacher�s choice: Teachers choose what they want their students to do, but I advise them to lean away from the randomizer and choose by themselves, but try not to make it uber hard. Wednesday- Student�s challenge: A teacher will tell their students to do a sprite that they would find difficult or challenging for them. Thursday- Teacher�s choice: Teachers choose what they want their students to do, but I advise them to lean away from the randomizer and choose by themselves, but try not to make it uber hard. Friday- Student�s choice: Students can end the week by choosing what they want to do depending on what category they�re placed in. This only suggested so you don�t have to do it. I'd like to repost this... o_O



Shed	Dec 27 2007, 12:13 AM Post #20
Don't go in the Shed! Posts: 10,926 Group: Administrator Member #1 Joined: September 25, 2004	My arguments against a fixed system remain.


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