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PUT A FORK IN HER...SHES DONE..
Topic Started: Mar 13 2009, 12:14 PM (291 Views)
Johnson_John1982
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Ive got some bad news (depending how you look at it). Looks like the 8hp 181 on my Cub is shot.
Rebuilding is an option..but Im not sure what shes going to need. Appears that the rings may be shot (no compression) and there are some metal shavings in the oil, maybe bearings.

So heres my question..
Since its not the original engine, should I rebuild or replace?
I have a massive twin cylinder Kohler (unknown specs) that was freshly rebuilt last summer..A guy gave it to me, evidently his wife didnt want it in the garage. I havent gotten around to reading the tag (the engine was painted red and they painted over the ID tag)
If I decide to replace the 8hp with the twin cylinder, has anyone done this kind of swap and what recommendations do you guys have for a new engine?
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Johnson_John1982
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--UPDATE--

Cleaned the engine tag up at lunch..heres what Im looking to put on the Original.

23HP
Spec # (?) 36337
K582S
Serial # 14068119

This thing is MASSIVE!! What do you guys think about it powering my Original??
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ACecil
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John,

It's your Original, you can do what you'd like, with it. I've seen guys repower Originals, with different engines. At one show I'd been to, a gentleman repowered his O, with a Briggs Vangard engine. Please keep us updated, on your progress. :IH Hand
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Merk
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Merk

The question you need to answer is "What do I want to do with my Orginal?" You can expect to put $350 to $400 in the motor rebuild. It can be done cheaper....cheaper rebuilds don't last as long. I use Kohler parts when I rebuild a Kohler motor.

I know a gent how as a 20 horse power in his Orginal. He likes to plow with it. 2 biggest problems he has are belt slipage and breaking gears in the trans.

Have to agree with Allen...It's Your cub.
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Johnson_John1982
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I was wondering what parts I may have to worry about breaking..
I dont plan on really using it for much other than maybe pushing some snow or loose gravel..
The only reason I was even thinking about the 582 was because I had it..and its got somewhat of a cool factor. :BigGrin
I open for suggestions though and I appreciate any info you guys can give me.
How do you think the driveshaft will hold up?
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Matt G.
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I'm not even sure that's going to fit properly in an original...a K532 is a HUGE motor, quite a bit larger than a M18 or M20. I guess if it were mine, I'd rebuild the K181, get the proper oil bath air filter, and most people wouldn't know the difference. The drive belt and clutch will probably give you trouble with that size of an engine.
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Johnson_John1982
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If I do decide to go with the bigger motor, I will end up making a custom hood that will fit over/around the new engine, custom motor mounts etc..
I may probably have to upgrade to a pulling type clutch and maybe fab up a serpentine belt system for it, that will keep some tension on the belt.
It may be alot more trouble than its worth..Im gonna have to put the pen to the paper and figure up the pros and cons of each.
If I go with the big motor its gonna blow my "simple project" out of the water..
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