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| Quietline steering issues; Took it apart. see what I found | |
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| Topic Started: Mar 9 2009, 04:23 PM (506 Views) | |
| R Bedell | Mar 11 2009, 06:14 AM Post #16 |
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Guys... I want to say that I learned something from this post. I knew that IHCC used a Ross Steering Column. I didn't know that the JD110 used the same thing. I did know, that in some cases (Kohler and Sundstrand), that buying these parts at the Green Dealer have been less expensive. I didn't know one could get a "cam follower" at Ace Hardware. If someone could post the Ace Part Number, that would be GREAT. |
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| Yosemite Sam | Mar 11 2009, 09:16 AM Post #17 |
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R Bedell What I said earlier, about the JD steering boxes may have been a little misleading. I don't know that the steering box itself from a JD is the same as a CC. As far as I know just the bearings, bearing cups, cam follower, gasket, upper bushing and adjusting plug are the same. For some reason (and I'm not sure why) but I think the JD boxes have the mounting holes in a different location. The steering shaft and the side cover (lever & bolt), are anyone's guess. The outer tube will be the same diameter but I don't know about the length. I just don't want anyone ordering parts or buying JD steering columns thinking that they will bolt in and fit a Cub Cadet. These parts MAY be the same, I just don't know for a fact that they are. weaverama said that he got a cam follower at Ace Hardware, maybe he will clarify this for us, but I'm guessing that His local Ace Hardware is a JD or CC lawn and garden tractor dealership or a parts distributor. |
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| weaverama | Mar 11 2009, 10:04 AM Post #18 |
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Sam, that particular ACE is a Cub and John Deere parts supplier, located here in Maryland. And, I tend to agree with you, the internal parts of the steering column may cross reference but as far as the outer shell, mounting locations etc., A John Deere is probably different from a Cub. |
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| young enthusiest | Mar 12 2009, 09:23 PM Post #19 |
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I still have a question. the threaded holes that the carriage bolts go in, do they go all the way into the interior of the box? Mine did, and contained 3 more bearing balls. i find it odd that they might. Anybody know the answer? |
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| Yosemite Sam | Mar 12 2009, 10:27 PM Post #20 |
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I'm not sure what you are referring to as "carriage bolts", I'm guessing that you mean mounting bolts. If so, Yes, the threaded mounting holes in the gear box casting go all the way through to the inside, and yeah, I would imagine that if the ball bearings "got loose" inside the box that they could end up in those holes. |
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| R Bedell | Mar 13 2009, 06:02 AM Post #21 |
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Guys: In the beginning, IH used the Ross Steering Columns for all their tractors. Even though they were made by Ross, they all had different part numbers, mainly due to the length of the "tube". Today, CCC/MTD have decided to reduce inventory, and have a "fits all" column that will apply to all IH built Cubs. None the less, regardless of the model and steering column number, the internal parts were all the same. I would assume, this also applies to the "Green Columns". So, with a little patience and research, one can obtain the correct parts regardless of the color of the dealer. :thumbsup |
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| young enthusiest | Mar 13 2009, 09:06 AM Post #22 |
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Sam got my question. R bedell, I shall be going to a Green dealer to get some parts for the column. I hope they have the gasket, and both sets of bearings. to Everybody who said something in this thread, thank you. |
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| Merk | Mar 13 2009, 03:37 PM Post #23 |
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I did purchase a cam follower from a local Deere dealership. The one I got from a local Deere dealership and the one in my 70 are not the same. |
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| Yosemite Sam | Mar 13 2009, 08:15 PM Post #24 |
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The only difference I know of with the cam followers is in the length, I think the older ones are shorter than the newer ones. JD may have gone to only having 1 replacement part for all the columns instead of having three different lengths of (basically) the same part. I needed a short one for an Original one time and the local Case/ IH dealer charged me some ridiculous price… like $37.00 for it. If I’m not mistaken the 70/100 series columns, like the Originals use “loose” bearings with snap rings instead of having the plastic “cage/separator” and I believe that there are 20 balls (top and bottom) instead of 16. Not sure if you can use the plastic “cage/separator” in the 70/100 series columns or not, if you can not and need to replace the balls you have to buy 3 bearing sets use 20 of the 24 balls and throw away the plastic cage part or use them for another column rebuild that doesn't need balls, just the plastic pieces. Edited by Yosemite Sam, Mar 13 2009, 08:18 PM.
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| Merk | Mar 13 2009, 10:45 PM Post #25 |
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The Deere cam follower wouldn't thread in the level and bolt assembly. Threads were too big. This is the 70 steering assembly:  My 100 steering was the same way. |
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