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The biggest dilemma so far
Topic Started: Jun 17 2008, 09:24 PM (1,592 Views)
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This is the most ridiculous discusion ever, Halo pales in comparison to every game made by Valve. Fact!

I'm not even going to bother futhering my argument as nools has probably already said everything that needed to be. Plus your vague grasp on the english language hurts my head.

Also you're not yahtzee, don't ever try and act it.
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Jun 18 2008, 07:09 PM
I don't think halo is a god send halo sucks bit it's hell of alot better than any of Valve's games. I'm more of a Call Of Duty 4 sorta guy tbh .

XD Halo better than all of Valve's games. You make me laugh. I have all three Halo games. They aren't better than all of Valve's games. Valve don't just make FPS'. Is that what you are comparing? Valve's FPS' and Halo? If it's Valve on whole and Halo being compared, I laugh at you. Valve do much more than FPS'. Think Portal, Peggle, Audiosurf etc.
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Jun 18 2008, 08:01 PM
This is the most ridiculous discusion ever, Halo pales in comparison to every game made by Valve. Fact!

I'm not even going to bother futhering my argument as nools has probably already said everything that needed to be. Plus your vague grasp on the english language hurts my head.

Also you're not yahtzee, don't ever try and act it.

I know i'm not yathzee, but he is a breath of fresh air , Valve DO infact have that same puzzle in The Half-Life series.

I don't see why you think valve is generous by giving you essentially 2 New mini games and games that are so old it doesn't cost them anything to give away it's like praising Microsoft for giving you Hexiix HD straight out of the box or Praising bungie for making the Heroic map packs free

Valve's textures are wack it's a fact I don't to be walking down the room looking at the same brick copy and pasted a million times

Also i have played TF 2, CS:S & 1.6

And also you brought Halo 2 into this which is at least 9000 years old so I brought CS:S into it

Looks like all the Ninty fanboys have turned into Valve faggots who praise Marc Laidlaw's ass

Also It's not a fact personal opinion etc.
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Jun 18 2008, 08:14 PM
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Jun 18 2008, 07:09 PM
I don't think halo is a god send halo sucks bit it's hell of alot better than any of Valve's games. I'm more of a Call Of Duty 4 sorta guy tbh .

XD Halo better than all of Valve's games. You make me laugh. I have all three Halo games. They aren't better than all of Valve's games. Valve don't just make FPS'. Is that what you are comparing? Valve's FPS' and Halo? If it's Valve on whole and Halo being compared, I laugh at you. Valve do much more than FPS'. Think Portal, Peggle, Audiosurf etc.

Audiosurf wasn't made by Valve
It was made by an independent developer called Dylan Fitterer
Portal was a breath of fresh air

But it's nothing i haven't played on the internet on sites like ebaums or newgrounds

I know there is a flash version i'm not talking about this
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What exactly have bungie done that's so inovative? Another generic space marine who fights aliens with big weapons in space, never seen that before.

Yes Valve has used the same sesaw puzzle but I don't really mind as each time it's excecuted in a different way, they find new ways to make it challenging and it's a just a brief way of splitting up the action. The Half Life series is just a great way of showcasing a great pysics engine, sublime narative technique and scripted events, imaginative story and character and enemy design. I can remember the name of every single major character in that game each with their own personality. I've played the Halo series and I can't remember anyone except master chief.
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Jun 19 2008, 11:52 AM
What exactly have bungie done that's so inovative? Another generic space marine who fights aliens with big weapons in space, never seen that before.

Yes Valve has used the same sesaw puzzle but I don't really mind as each time it's excecuted in a different way, they find new ways to make it challenging and it's a just a brief way of splitting up the action. The Half Life series is just a great way of showcasing a great pysics engine, sublime narative technique and scripted events, imaginative story and character and enemy design. I can remember the name of every single major character in that game each with their own personality. I've played the Halo series and I can't remember anyone except master chief.

You see there's a difference between playing a game and being a fan of the series
I've completed Gears of War but I don't know the names of every character because I'm not a fan, Just as your not a fan of Halo so your not gonna know all the names are you your a fan of the half-life series so you are going to know .

And you can hardly Say it's another generic space marine game when half life is based around what ? a Virus or something that turns Humans into monsters like every Zombie film ever ? Or resident evil.

Don't claim originality when your story line is plucked from the same unoriginal tree as the rest

Valve are a third rate developer, Who have really only made 2 good games in there span and basically ask other developers to have there games sold on steam which has more bugs than the Amazon rainforest.

When did I say Bungie where innovative ? Being innovative isn't always good Nintendo are innovative and look what happened there !

But if you must know type "Marathon Game" game into Google you might learn something

Also most of the weapons are standard weapons not Quake like weapons
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Jun 19 2008, 02:56 PM
and basically ask other developers to have there games sold on steam which has more bugs than the Amazon rainforest.

You suck at puns.
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Half Life is not about a virus. Not even close.

Again, which Valve games have you played?

Developers sell their games on Steam because it has over 15 million users, prevents piracy, and is very easy to use.

Of course Half-Life uses semi-realistic weapons. It's set in a world; not that much unlike ours.

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Jun 19 2008, 03:12 PM
Half Life is not about a virus. Not even close.

Again, which Valve games have you played?

Developers sell their games on Steam because it has over 15 million users, prevents piracy, and is very easy to use.

Of course Half-Life uses semi-realistic weapons. It's set in a world; not that much unlike ours.

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read my above post

Half-life1&2 only the start though to be fair though

Whats it about then ?

I can guarantee you it's been done before in one game or another

It doesn't prevent piracy ever heard of PacSteam ?
That used to work like a charm for CS:S

You do realise that halo is about earth ?
And also set 500 years in the future
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On further research Half life is basically an alternate Stargate

Aliens coming to earth and threatening earth oh please

Independence day plox ?
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Jun 19 2008, 03:39 PM
On further research Half life is basically an alternate Stargate

Aliens coming to earth and threatening earth oh please

Independence day plox ?

A team of people working for the airforce go to other planets through a gate built by an ancient race in aims of acquiring new technology?

I think you miss the point of stargate.
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Jun 19 2008, 03:51 PM
Geffs
Jun 19 2008, 03:39 PM
On further research Half life is basically an alternate Stargate

Aliens coming to earth and threatening earth oh please

Independence day plox ?

A team of people working for the airforce go to other planets through a gate built by an ancient race in aims of acquiring new technology?

I think you miss the point of stargate.

Alternate mean
Aliens coming through a dimensional portal etc.
I think you need to look up alternate in the dictionary
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Geffs
Jun 19 2008, 03:53 PM
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Jun 19 2008, 03:51 PM
Geffs
Jun 19 2008, 03:39 PM
On further research Half life is basically an alternate Stargate

Aliens coming to earth and threatening earth oh please

Independence day plox ?

A team of people working for the airforce go to other planets through a gate built by an ancient race in aims of acquiring new technology?

I think you miss the point of stargate.

Alternate mean
Aliens coming through a dimensional portal etc.
I think you need to look up alternate in the dictionary

I think reverse would be a more appropriate word for what you're trying to describe than alternate. ;)
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PacSteam doesn't work. I don't care if it has been done before, Half Life has done it the best. I don't care where Halo is set, and of course the weapons will be different 500 years in the future. This is irrelevant to Valve being better than Bungie.

Anyway, which game has done the Half Life/2 plot before? The Half Life 2 plot is different anyway, he isn't even in the Black Mesa facility and it isn't just about escaping.
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Jun 19 2008, 03:57 PM
PacSteam doesn't work. I don't care if it has been done before, Half Life has done it the best. I don't care where Halo is set, and of course the weapons will be different 500 years in the future. This is irrelevant to Valve being better than Bungie.

Anyway, which game has done the Half Life/2 plot before? The Half Life 2 plot is different anyway, he isn't even in the Black Mesa facility and it isn't just about escaping.

urgh this isn't even about storyline
It's about development
Bungie are better developer's

DLC etc.
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Jun 19 2008, 03:01 PM
DLC etc.

Well, that's shooting yourself in the foot.

Valve have released a new game type, at least 2 new maps, 2 more are coming, they've released 38 achievements and 38 more are being released tonight along with 4 new weapons (this will happen 7 more times) and 3 weapons have already been released. They've also released 5/6 comedy videos.

Now, would anyone care to answer for a game that isn't Team Fortress 2?

TF2 recap:

352 achievements.
28 Weapons.
20+ maps.
At least 1 new game mode.
9 Comedy videos.

What have they done for Halo 3?
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Jun 19 2008, 04:06 PM
Geffs
Jun 19 2008, 03:01 PM
DLC etc.

Well, that's shooting yourself in the foot.

Valve have released a new game type, at least 2 new maps, 2 more are coming, they've released 38 achievements and 38 more are being released tonight along with 4 new weapons (this will happen 7 more times) and 3 weapons have already been released. They've also released 5/6 comedy videos.

Now, would anyone care to answer for a game that isn't Team Fortress 2?

TF2 recap:

352 achievements.
28 Weapons.
20+ maps.
At least 1 new game mode.
9 Comedy videos.

What have they done for Halo 3?

Elll oh Ell

2 new maps ??

Since it came out there's been 2 map packs out

With I think three maps on each side there

Grifball,SWAT and MLG Pro gametypes have all been released Mulitple Double EXP weekends, They give Recon armour to people who achieve things in the game, It's so hard to rank up they don't need to bring up any more achievements, If you think bringing out achievements is effort then your dense.

Comedy videos ?
how does that have anything to do with developing ?

I can't be arsed with this argument. You obviously don't know what developing is do you
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Jun 19 2008, 06:30 PM
Elll oh Ell

2 new maps ??

Since it came out there's been 2 map packs out

With I think three maps on each side there

Grifball,SWAT and MLG Pro gametypes have all been released Mulitple Double EXP weekends, They give Recon armour to people who achieve things in the game, It's so hard to rank up they don't need to bring up any more achievements, If you think bringing out achievements is effort then your dense.

Comedy videos ?
how does that have anything to do with developing ?

I can't be arsed with this argument. You obviously don't know what developing is do you

Four maps. Probably with 2 more coming with each character update. So, about 14 more too come.

Halo stuffs...
Yay. Game types which are already in the game but a bit better now. Double XP weekends. XD
Halo has XP. That makes everyone look at different levels and people without any XP may be better than you, but you will still call them a noob because they have no XP and then get your arse kicked if they are better than you.

Recon armour. Big deal. So some people have it. Eventually, everyone will.

He never said bringing out achievements was effort. He didn't say much. But, they add to the game. They get you things. Instead of just gamerscore, you get new weapons for classes.
Gamerscore is the most useless thing ever. WHY IS IT THERE? To make people seem better than each other. Why don't you just spend the gamerscore in the Xbox live arcade? It'd be much better... You wouldn't have a useless point thing if you did.

He never said comedy videos have anything to do with developing...
They are made by the company to prove that they want to entertain the audience of the game and others. They don't have to be done, but Valve does make them because they are awesome.
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I believe I win this argument. You mentioned downloadable content. I listed downloadable content. The videos happen to be those. Coding in all of the achievements correctly isn't easy.

Twice you have ignored my question, "which other Valve games have you played?"

You have given up yourself. You couldn't out a competent argument together against my list of DLC, therefore you lose and we swim in the love that flows from our beloved Valve.

That's right, I can make bad puns too. :x
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Jun 19 2008, 06:49 PM
I believe I win this argument. You mentioned downloadable content. I listed downloadable content. The videos happen to be those. Coding in all of the achievements correctly isn't easy.

Twice you have ignored my question, "which other Valve games have you played?"

You have given up yourself. You couldn't out a competent argument together against my list of DLC, therefore you lose and we swim in the love that flows from our beloved Valve.

That's right, I can make bad puns too. :x

I said look at my other post where i have listed them
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Okay you win



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