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The supernatural?
Topic Started: May 6 2008, 08:10 PM (1,153 Views)
Highlander Monkey
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sarcastic :suss:
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Highlander Monkey
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Well whats the point in saying that if your not going to tell us your proof.


I hope you don't disagree :|

if so your wrong :)

don't make me kill you to prove to you... ;)
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picollo no.
Wolfos
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May 7 2008, 07:11 PM
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Well whats the point in saying that if your not going to tell us your proof.


I hope you don't disagree :|

if so your wrong :)

don't make me kill you to prove to you... ;)

Well I don't know what your point is as you haven't given any specific details so I can't agree or disagree :0 which upsets me.

*Looks around cautiously for the FTW spelling police :blink: , it seems like an almost helpless battle :_| .*
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Highlander Monkey
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I've seen two cats and a young girl in ghost form, but the mounting psychic evidence defends the case

sorry i was being awkward before, it's just i'm pretty damn sure and nothing can change my mind :p
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picollo no.
Wolfos
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May 7 2008, 07:25 PM
I've seen two cats and a young girl in ghost form, but the mounting psychic evidence defends the case

sorry i was being awkward before, it's just i'm pretty damn sure and nothing can change my mind :p

Well what was the circumstances when you saw the ghosts.
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GarydosRC
May 7 2008, 05:52 PM
1. No, I'm just using them as a random example of an animal I've never seen but have heard to use as a comparison.

2. I do that kind of thing, a LOT.

3. Yes, but some people really believe they are 100% sure of the things they only think they know.

If that makes any sense...

4. Well, by insane people I mean people who understand and believe (or at least acknowledge) the kind of skewed logic I used (even though it's skewed there is still a logic to it).

5. You say proof, but what's your definition of proof? Do you consider something proven when someone else has apparently proven it? For example, assuming you haven't done physics, without knowing about the theory of relativity do you consider it proven and correct? Because, my point was that unless you yourself have actually proven it to yourself (either by experimentation, experience, the equations used etc.) how can you be certain it is correct? This may sound paranoid but in my head I have come to this conclusion that nothing is truly proven until I myself have proven it, this can be using other people's methods. Therefore, I cannot prove giraffes exist. However, I still assume giraffes exist and supernatural things don't based on what I'm told, but if I myself found a way to prove the contrary then I would no longer think like this.

6. About 'fact', same as above replacing proof with fact.

7. Loads in comparison to what I usually type on here.

Sorry, I've got no intention of having a quote chain :p

1. Fair enough.

2. Meh, I'm no grammar nazi.

3. I know. Religion springs to mind immediately. And that really is another rant :p

4. In what sense is it skewed if there is logic to it, and has not been disproven?

5. I'll try to define my understanding of 'proof'.

Proof- evidence to support a claim that, whilst not neccessarily free of anomilies, has yet to be disproven in relativity to the claim.

Although I can see your point about proving things for yourself. Whilst valid, that is a very pessimistic and possibly self-centered view on the world. Although I'll concede on that one :0

6. Fact- something that has proof to support it and has yet to be disproven.

NOTE: I say for both that they've 'yet to be disproven' as you can never be certain of anything in such a strangely created world.

7. Tooshay :^0

EDIT: It's ok, Picollo. I'll stop soon :p

Highlander, are you American? :suss:
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picollo no.
Wolfos
falco_the_watcher
May 7 2008, 07:34 PM
EDIT: It's ok, Picollo. I'll stop soon :p


Hopefully, I feel like I'm in Nineteen-Eighty-Four or something and your some branch of the ministry who patrols bad spelling :sad: it's scary.
Plus anyone who says ghost (or really anything) are definant without any proper solid evidence don't really have an arguement, there's belief and some things may seem more believable but without solid evidence you can't prove anything for certain.
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falco_the_watcher
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picollo no.
May 7 2008, 06:45 PM
falco_the_watcher
May 7 2008, 07:34 PM
EDIT: It's ok, Picollo. I'll stop soon :p


Hopefully, I feel like I'm in Nineteen-Eighty-Four or something and your some branch of the ministry who patrols bad spelling :sad: it's scary.
Plus anyone who says ghost (or really anything) are definant without any proper solid evidence don't really have an arguement, there's belief and some things may seem more believable but without solid evidence you can't prove anything for certain.

Satan, why do you tempt me to correct spelling and grammatical errors so!?!

But otherwise, what you're saying really is that without proof, it's not proven :^0
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picollo no.
Wolfos
falco_the_watcher
May 7 2008, 07:48 PM
picollo no.
May 7 2008, 06:45 PM
falco_the_watcher
May 7 2008, 07:34 PM
EDIT: It's ok, Picollo. I'll stop soon :p


Hopefully, I feel like I'm in Nineteen-Eighty-Four or something and your some branch of the ministry who patrols bad spelling :sad: it's scary.
Plus anyone who says ghost (or really anything) are definant without any proper solid evidence don't really have an arguement, there's belief and some things may seem more believable but without solid evidence you can't prove anything for certain.

Satan, why do you tempt me to correct spelling and grammatical errors so!?!

But otherwise, what you're saying really is that without proof, it's not proven :^0

Resist Falco spelling mistakes happen, and yeah that basically is my point.
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falco_the_watcher
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It just sounded funny, is all.

NOT PROOF=NOT PROVEN. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST :p

Ok guys, at a pathetic attempt at getting back on topic, what do we think of supernatural creatures other than ghosts?
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Takoa
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falco_the_watcher
May 7 2008, 08:07 PM
It just sounded funny, is all.

NOT PROOF=NOT PROVEN. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST :p

Ok guys, at a pathetic attempt at getting back on topic, what do we think of supernatural creatures other than ghosts?

You mean like the invisible, undetectable pink unicorns, the purple dragons and the occasional gold crested Phoenix that fly over my house every day? :p
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That's not gold you fool, that's just yellow sprinkled with glitter! You fool!

If you consider them to be supernatural, then I guess so. Wow that backfired.
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picollo no.
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May 7 2008, 08:10 PM
falco_the_watcher
May 7 2008, 08:07 PM
It just sounded funny, is all.

NOT PROOF=NOT PROVEN. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST :p

Ok guys, at a pathetic attempt at getting back on topic, what do we think of supernatural creatures other than ghosts?

You mean like the invisible, undetectable pink unicorns, the purple dragons and the occasional gold crested Phoenix that fly over my house every day? :p

EDIT: Anyway, when it comes to ghosts and aliens, I'm not really sure what I believe.

Ah the IPU, it's been a while since I heard that last mentioned and the Flying Spaghetti monster too. I now feel a need to do an FSM revival, because he's just so awesome.
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Takoa
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falco_the_watcher
May 7 2008, 08:14 PM
That's not gold you fool, that's just yellow sprinkled with glitter! You fool!

If you consider them to be supernatural, then I guess so. Wow that backfired.

No, I don't consider them to be supernatural really, they're definately real. :p

Anyway, as far as ghosts and aliens go, I'm not really sure what I'd believe. They could be real, they could not be real. I'd rather they were real, it'd make life a bit more exciting, being able to see ghosts and aliens around, but I don't really know whether I believe they are or not.
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Well what was the circumstances when you saw the ghosts.


You know when you wake up in the middle of the night for no particular reason and have a look around, that's what happened. I was only 7 or 8 so it's fair to say i leaked the bed.

i actually saw 3 sightings but one of them was kind of vague and not easy to make out. They all happened in the same month.

the first one was a girl in a nightie holding something walking towards the window

the second was two cats by the side of the bed staring at me. (i believe they are my two pet cats who died over a year ago before, i still live with one of the cat's brothers, he's great.)

the third vague encounter was an old lady folding towels at the bottom of the bed. Her face wasn't clear so it's a possibility that was my mind playing tricks on me.

the images are still kind of clear in my mind even though it was about 7 years ago.

it was really scary at the time, but i should have known not to be scared

but i'm not the only one who witnessed phenommena in that room

my mum twice encountered weird things

the first was a weird glowing ball that floated towards her face, she closed her eyes as it came right close, but then reopened to find it had gone

the second was when she woke in the middle of the night and saw green writing on the wall which had a message, but unfortunately she failed to remember what the message was

this was in the house where we used to stay which had an electricity pilon right next to it (experts say activity is more likely if you are next to something of that sort of thing)

since i have moved i have witnessed nothing but feel much more comfortable in my house as i have a street lamp outside my bedroom window :p

but my cat sometimes acts weirdly like he is watching something

experts also say (including my RS teacher) that young children and animals are more likely to pick up on things like ghosts and orbs, you have to be in the right frame of mind to see them

after all that though, i do think programmes like most haunted are the most exaggerated pile of sh!t in the world :D



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Highlander is Scottish, methinks.

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the first one was a girl in a nightie holding something walking towards the window

the second was two cats by the side of the bed staring at me. (i believe they are my two pet cats who died over a year ago before, i still live with one of the cat's brothers, he's great.)

the third vague encounter was an old lady folding towels at the bottom of the bed. Her face wasn't clear so it's a possibility that was my mind playing tricks on me.

the images are still kind of clear in my mind even though it was about 7 years ago.

it was really scary at the time, but i should have known not to be scared

but i'm not the only one who witnessed phenommena in that room

my mum twice encountered weird things

the first was a weird glowing ball that floated towards her face, she closed her eyes as it came right close, but then reopened to find it had gone

the second was when she woke in the middle of the night and saw green writing on the wall which had a message, but unfortunately she failed to remember what the message was

this was in the house where we used to stay which had an electricity pilon right next to it (experts say activity is more likely if you are next to something of that sort of thing)

since i have moved i have witnessed nothing but feel much more comfortable in my house as i have a street lamp outside my bedroom window silly.gif

but my cat sometimes acts weirdly like he is watching something

experts also say (including my RS teacher) that young children and animals are more likely to pick up on things like ghosts and orbs, you have to be in the right frame of mind to see them


*TS shivers*

I once dreamed that an orb was floating around my room or coming towards me. What if I was awake? :|
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Ghosts: Yes but I would prefer to encounter them myself to truly believe in them.

Aliens: This place is just too big, there must be something somewhere.
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Danny
May 7 2008, 08:57 PM
Ghosts: Yes but I would prefer to encounter them myself to truly believe in them.

I wouldn't like to encounter one!
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falco_the_watcher
May 7 2008, 06:34 PM
4. In what sense is it skewed if there is logic to it, and has not been disproven?

5. I'll try to define my understanding of 'proof'.

Proof- evidence to support a claim that, whilst not neccessarily free of anomilies, has yet to be disproven in relativity to the claim.

Although I can see your point about proving things for yourself. Whilst valid, that is a very pessimistic and possibly self-centered view on the world. Although I'll concede on that one :0

4. It's skewed in the sense it kind of defies common sense. It's like some theories that a scientist made up that have yet to be technically disproven, that say we cannot ever achieve a task. This is because he points out before we can half do it, we must 1/4 do it, before that we must 1/8 do it etc. and that consists of infinite tasks. And infinite tasks cannot be completed, therefore, we can't ever complete a task. Of course common sense dictates otherwise, but the logic he uses is airtight. Hence he uses a kind of skewed logic.

5. I'm aware believing that fully is very pessimistic and self-centred, which is why it's just an idea I point out to people to see what they think of it. Of course I cannot actually live this way all my life. I just use this concept so people think about things in a different way.
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Oh God, I survived last night. Phew.

Thanks a lot for scaring me, HM!
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