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| The supernatural? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 6 2008, 08:10 PM (1,149 Views) | |
| fi101 | May 6 2008, 08:10 PM Post #1 |
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I was just wondering if some people do believe in all these things about ghosts and aliens and stuff and why. Personally, i don't (no offense boo) but i would like to know if and why i should. |
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| Pokemaniac John | May 6 2008, 08:21 PM Post #2 |
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I don't "believe" in the supernatural, but that doesn't mean I don't think things such as ghosts et cetera exist. I "believe" in the postman - I see him most days. He's there, as real as I am. I know he exists, to the greatest extent you can know anything exists. If I saw a ghost most days, whether delivering the post or otherwise, I would believe in ghosts, in the same way I believe in the postman. |
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| falco_the_watcher | May 6 2008, 08:21 PM Post #3 |
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Interesting question. I believe that there are both. Although ghosts are not as we traditionally think of them, but some kind of afterlife of aliens. I'm about 90% (in my mind, please feel free to disagree. My mind isn't the law :p ) that there are aliens. If we've been around for however millions of years we have been, and the universe is constantly expanding, it's highly unlikely that we're the only planet with civilised life. To be honest, the above is fairly trivial. Although what lies under this sentence is something that truly fascinates me. Although I'm not one for that 'parallel dimension' concept in which according to the above statement, there apparently MUST be a direct opposite to everyone who's ever lived. Whilst I'm not doubting there is someone a direct opposite to me (not neccessarily in the same time per, I highly doubt that due to the amount of possible variation in humans (to date, no 2 people have been perfectly identical outside of the cloning process) that this 'anti-FTW' is in the same time period as say... an 'anti-Blaze'. Although now I think of it, I've changed my mind. I won't delete that bit, as it does make a bit of sense. But logically, my idea above is based on time being endless, and so logically there must be another me somewhere. But it doesn't apply to all of time, as times change. One tiny difference can massively affect a time period thousands or possibly even only hundreds of years into the future. So it would be unfeasible at best to think that if there was another exact copy of me (I'm not being self-obsessive, it's just that I'm easy to use as an example) that it could possibly be in another time as the world may have evolved (or not evolved enough) socially, technologically, physically or mentally enough to create the exact surroundings I'm in (which after all, massively affect my personality and actions). I know that the majority of this post was off topic, but I fancied delving a little deeper than the average schmoe. |
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| GarydosRC | May 6 2008, 09:13 PM Post #4 |
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PJ, that's not belief, it's knowledge that the postman exists, you pretty much said so yourself. As for my answer... I believe in ghosts and aliens the same way I believe in giraffes (bear with me I'm being serious). I have heard about giraffes, seen pictures and all that jazz, but I've never actually seen one. The same is true for ghosts and aliens. They're all over the media (along with any supernatural being) but I've never seen one of either. Then the obvious point is the only reason most people (ie people who haven't seen a giraffe) believe in giraffes but not so-called 'supernatural' beings is that people tell us that giraffes are real and the latter is not. When you think about that that means these people when they think about it have very little reason to dount supernatural things more than giraffes. And if you do think that way when you really think about it we know so little compared to what we think we know, if we're sane we'd all be sitting in the corner sucking on our thumbs. Good thing no-one's sane, but that's another rant. ****ing hell I already typed all this and the stupid page wouldn't load... |
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| Blaze | May 7 2008, 05:55 AM Post #5 |
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Aliens yes. Ghosts etc no. Aliens... We can't be the only things here in this universe. It's too big for it just to be us... |
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| Noolsey | May 7 2008, 07:15 AM Post #6 |
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It depends what you consider to be alien. If it's anything not living on this planet, then yes. It's just another species though, isn't it. Ghosts, yes. Not the 'Most Haunted' type of crap though. ¬_¬ If I gave you my whole story, you wouldn't believe me, so I won't. But I doubt all of these encounters people claim to have had, and the killings are done by people. Some aren't at least. Again, just like another species. |
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| PJI | May 7 2008, 08:19 AM Post #7 |
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Wolfos
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I tend not to think of these sort of things really. If ghosts do or don't exist, it doesn't bother me, as long as they don't interfere with my life. That is, if they knew we existed themselves. Aliens... possibly. I mean, I know the universe is ever expanding and has been around since time, but don't forgot how lucky this planet was to give birth to life. There could be aliens, there could not be aliens. Similar to ghosts, if they do exist, it's no skin off my back as long as they don't invade us. EDIT: I wouldn't mind listening to your story, Nools. I'm all ears. |
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| Llivio | May 7 2008, 10:51 AM Post #8 |
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Aliens....yeh i believe in em, It's not possible that we're the only ones in the universe B-) ghosts.....I don't know if i believe in em or not XD |
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| Dark Lugia 2 | May 7 2008, 03:19 PM Post #9 |
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Aliens - yes :p by aliens you mean life on another planet, I dont think this is the only planet in how many other universes there are to have life on it :p Ghosts - nah :p I need to see this with my own eyes to believe it, as I believe we leave the earth after we die :p well, if someone believes in ghosts then that proves for them theres more to it after death, meh :p |
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| Bailey Bob | May 7 2008, 04:08 PM Post #10 |
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You used 5 :p emoticons in that post, and nothing else! :0 Aliens, yes, the same reason other people do, but I don't think them to be more advanced than us. Ghosts, no. |
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| falco_the_watcher | May 7 2008, 04:23 PM Post #11 |
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This was funny to read. :^0 1. I hope you're not saying that giraffes qualify as 'supernatural' :p 2. You used the word 'think' 3 times in 1 sentence :( 3. There's nothing to prove what we 'think we know' isn't true, hence why we 'think' we know it ;) 4. Alot of people are sane. By choosing to ignore them, you're becoming mainstream :0 5. Giraffes and the supernatural are completely different. One is an animal that has been on Earth for thousands of years, and has been seen, heard and felt by thousands (most probably millions) of people throughout time, and one is the collective name for species whose existence has not been scientifically proven. The fact that giraffes aren't classed as 'supernatural' should indicate to you that they're real. People have much reason to doubt the supernatural more than giraffes (this is coming back to point 4) as they have been seen, heard and felt by the human race. Supernatural creatures (ghosts, werewolves, vampires etc) are creatures that have not been proven. Any 'evidence' of supernatural creatures is vague and unidentifiable. B-) 6. So don't get me wrong with point 5. I believe there are supernatural beings (although most likely not the traditional kind often thought about when referring to the supernatural) but that's purely my belief, whilst giraffes are fact. :| 7. And you think that you typed loads ;/ |
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| fi101 | May 7 2008, 05:01 PM Post #12 |
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i was researching the sort of thing on google and wikipedia and there seems to be a lot of people who claim to have had encouters with ghosts and aliens. Anyone here who can say the same? |
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| picollo no. | May 7 2008, 05:04 PM Post #13 |
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Well it definately is possible that lifeforms exist on other planets I have no problem believing in that, whether or not we will ever come into contact with them is another matter as they could possibly live thousands of light years away and in that time it is possible for them either to of come existinct or that we ourselves no longer exist before we finally reach them whether it's through radio signals or something else of the like. Ghosts I'm more skeptical about. If by ghost you mean a spiritual presence leftover by the deseased, I will say I don't believe in it as I don't believe in any form of an afterlife or souls or spirits. |
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| DMHowe | May 7 2008, 05:36 PM Post #14 |
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Hmm. Aliens are likely, if by alien you refer to something not of this planet that lives, not necessarily what we self-deludedly (some may say arrogantly) classify as intelligent. As for ghosts? I don't know. I'm not going to believe or disbelieve either until I'm even sure what a ghost really is, or anything about the afterlife, for that matter. Nothing is certain, and all is possible. If we're just chemical reactions then it stands to some reason it's unlikely there's anything more. Once we have served our purpose, we die. However, the ideology of complexity to life suggesting design would say it's more. Who's to say? Beliefs are usually based on hope, and I'd rather be sure than hope something is true on my own willful wants. |
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| falco_the_watcher | May 7 2008, 05:51 PM Post #15 |
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Yes, I too, can also say that there seems to be a lot of people who've experience such events. And DMHowe, nice comment. I'm guessing that ghosts (until actually proven) are supposedly the spiritual remains of the deceased |
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| GarydosRC | May 7 2008, 05:52 PM Post #16 |
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1. No, I'm just using them as a random example of an animal I've never seen but have heard to use as a comparison. 2. I do that kind of thing, a LOT. 3. Yes, but some people really believe they are 100% sure of the things they only think they know. If that makes any sense... 4. Well, by insane people I mean people who understand and believe (or at least acknowledge) the kind of skewed logic I used (even though it's skewed there is still a logic to it). 5. You say proof, but what's your definition of proof? Do you consider something proven when someone else has apparently proven it? For example, assuming you haven't done physics, without knowing about the theory of relativity do you consider it proven and correct? Because, my point was that unless you yourself have actually proven it to yourself (either by experimentation, experience, the equations used etc.) how can you be certain it is correct? This may sound paranoid but in my head I have come to this conclusion that nothing is truly proven until I myself have proven it, this can be using other people's methods. Therefore, I cannot prove giraffes exist. However, I still assume giraffes exist and supernatural things don't based on what I'm told, but if I myself found a way to prove the contrary then I would no longer think like this. 6. About 'fact', same as above replacing proof with fact. 7. Loads in comparison to what I usually type on here. |
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| TimeShift | May 7 2008, 05:55 PM Post #17 |
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I kind of believe in aliens. Sure, as said above, space is expanding and all that, but where would the aliens come from in the first place? And what if they don't even call themselves aliens? :wacko: Truthfully, I would prefer if the aliens were friendly like in Star Wars or something, and we can fight alongside them as allies and...... Ghosts, I certainly do believe in. Watch too much scary movies, I do. Although it is possible that remnants of a dead person could still be alive and walking the Earth. They could be invisible to us and watching us right now....... Argh! |
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| Highlander Monkey | May 7 2008, 05:58 PM Post #18 |
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aliens I'm not sure but afterlife I'm certain I've witnessed somethings that have proven to me :| you'll believe me when we're up there :) anyone who disagrees is automatically wrong but kudos for trying :) i once wrote a project on the 'unexplained', one of the most useful spendatures of my time i have spent. I should know. and by the way, I'm not being sarcy :| |
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| TimeShift | May 7 2008, 06:06 PM Post #19 |
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PK Thunder!
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I've never heard of such an adjective XD |
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| picollo no. | May 7 2008, 06:07 PM Post #20 |
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Well whats the point in saying that if your not going to tell us your proof. |
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