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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 13 2011, 11:00 PM (791 Views) | |
| dearjenna | Apr 13 2011, 11:00 PM Post #1 |
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With help of my mentor we both have made quite an observation that I would like to, not only, attribute to him, but discuss here: it consists of the words we use, and how it is all affecting our generation and generations to come. (This is a serious thought-process and discussion that I would like to have.) On any typical news-feed--from Facebook to Twitter to even Reddit--brevity is key. When we begin speaking in mostly internet meme references and chat-speak, with ever-changing--and ever-annoying--acronyms (some of which have been privy to recently be added into the Oxford English Dictionary), we begin transforming the way we communicate to something less-akin to real communication. When does succinct language transform from intellectual training of limits and a command of language to simply restraining us from learning more--from developing our vocabulary to killing our communication to that of a stereotypical caveman (or caveperson, if you are a feminist, which I am not)? There is a fine line between being internet-savvy and de-socializing ourselves. Being a computer nerd myself, it is not hard to believe that eventually most of the world would catch up to what the /b/ of 4chan and Reddit and several other sharing forums have been up to for years: sending and receiving information at a fast rate, thus creating a new form of highly intellectual and stimulating conversation passed through subliminal messages whether in the shape of .gif's, YouTube clips, or finite speech hidden amongst the script of a hacker's tongue. The typical internet user is just beginning to affiliate themselves with some of the depths of the internet, and, without knowing any true origins of the things to which they expose themselves, they, like many poor, unfortunate souls, find themselves believing Tumblr started memes that have been around for years: "Tits or GTFO," "Forever Alone/Sad Bro," "Problem?/Trollface," "LOLOLOLOL," "Courage Wolf," and many others. The reality is, true hacking veterans are setting aside time, still ever-evolving as they were 10-20 years ago, when many thought the internet was "a thing of the future" (as in, something to tackle sometime later), and are creating more that the public outside of these deep realms and underground forums of the internet will not discover until, like its predecessors, much later. They were born into a generation who thirsted for knowledge. And while my generation does have its fair share of intellectuals, we are compromising more that our peers could be capable of by sitting on the computer, staring at a Tumblr feed, rather than using the internet as it began: for streaming real time-sensitive information and passing along knowledge (or even a simple YouTube clip) that could benefit audiences. When we should be communicating in a way to further our knowledge in academia and socially--on a global and local scope--we are communicating like this: link This isn’t communication at all, in my honest opinion. It's a cheap shot at communication. It's devoid of real connection, and rather only out to make an impact, to stir up conversation that is better left to the dogs. Students, in their 20's cannot make a logical argument in their papers for their English classes because of this lack of connection between what is communication and how to communicate it. That, and a pure lack of effort that they have gotten away with most of their public schooling careers has left them weak and more likely to flunk their first year of college. Which is saddening--the rate at which our higher education is rising has been proven statistically to be the new norm. In the future, BA's will not be as rightfully honored because of the ease found in receiving such a degree. Students will have to actually work towards getting their Master's and Doctorate degrees. On the surface, it seems as though our education is rising. Deeper, it is merely because education is easier to grasp, not because of higher intellect, but because of sinking standards. And it all begins with communication. There's my two cents. -->
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| KatzMotel | Apr 13 2011, 11:34 PM Post #2 |
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| dearjenna | Apr 13 2011, 11:37 PM Post #3 |
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I was actually hoping someone would catch that slight humor... No one else caught it on deviantART. Shame, really. The fact of the matter is, sharing and receiving information, no matter what it is, is the main use of the internet that many people aren't always willing to grab. They just post really "pretty" pictures of space and slap on quotes from literature they've never even touched, to send a superficial message to their followers and friends or whoever else trolls their streams. Bullocks. They want to send the message they are someone without the work of being someone. Same as with communication. They want to talk, but don't want to listen, and they want it all simplified so they don't have to work for the knowledge so many would die to receive in other less-privileged areas. Edited by dearjenna, Apr 13 2011, 11:39 PM.
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| N!ck | Apr 13 2011, 11:49 PM Post #4 |
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Maybe that's because Deviantart is filled with children and 40 year old adults with weird fetishes. |
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| dearjenna | Apr 13 2011, 11:52 PM Post #5 |
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Lol. Be that as it may, I do know a lot of awesome people on deviantART. However, one person is continuously replying to me and they missed the point of my post entirely, which is a bit aggravating. They think I'm talking about the English language and not communication itself... :| Idk how you can miss it, but there you have it. |
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| dearjenna | Apr 14 2011, 12:45 AM Post #6 |
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What you are missing, however, is that those .gif's and YouTube videos are always referencing something bigger that actually has information in it. Whether it is for entertainment or something scholarly is neither here nor there. Most people today on the internet don't know how meme's started and what it meant to pass one along. Nowadays it could mean anything and be a substitute for any emotion. Those who know its origin, pass it along properly, and with it, pass along its hidden meanings and messages meant to be researched if unknown to the receive.r Give and take, that's what knowledge is. |
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| KatzMotel | Apr 14 2011, 12:45 AM Post #7 |
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Anyway, the reason undergraduate degrees are losing value is simply because more people are doing them. There are multiple reasons for this. It was a policy of the previous government in the UK, for example, to get as many people as possible into higher education. When supply outstrips demand of any commodity-- be it turnips or graduates-- value is going to fall. This has been coupled with the fact that non-service sector industry has all but died, meaning that the availabiliy of apprenticeships for skilled jobs has also dried up. So really, the only choice people are left with is either having a badly paid, dead-end job or getting a degree and maybe avoiding a badly paid, dead-end job. That is if you can get a job at all. |
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| MP1 | Apr 14 2011, 01:47 AM Post #8 |
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Honestly, when I first started reading this, I thought you were going to go onto a postmodernist rant. Then, by the second sentence, I thought it was contempt for improper use of English. It turns out that it's about the meaning behind how people are "transferring" (in line with your argument that since they don't know the origin or actual meaning, they aren't learning and spreading, they are simply passing it on aimlessly) things; not what they're actually saying (i.e, postmodernism). Now, I don't think is as much of an issue as you think. However, this may be a regional thing. Most of the people that I'm in contact with in person don't use the internet in the way that you (suggest people) do. I only know of three friends who use or even know about Tumblr, another three or four who know what forums/message boards are, and a handful of people who know there are a plethora of memes. This isn't because people here don't have access to each of these things, it's simply because most of the people either have no desire to do so or are ignorant of their existence. If anything, the transference of memes is not an issue for most ("casual") internet users. However, I think that you could make an argument that the impersonal implications of text based communication is affecting understanding in Western cultures. However, I think that the underlying cause of the problem is more of the hedonistic, individualistic, largely apathetic culture that we've all be nurtured by. Now, I'm not saying that those things are problems (well, perhaps apathy) necessarily, but I believe that they're the primary causal agents. I totally agree that one reason that students are failing so miserably in English classes (or most of school, for that matter) is due to the lack of personal communication. Again, though, I point towards the cultural values (which, one could posit that the technology and its maltreatment stems from that societal setting) which cause the mess, really. Honestly, I wish I could devise a way to improve the social culture and convince the masses of Western nations to embrace education and learning. If you have any suggestions on how to do so, please let me know. |
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| dearjenna | Apr 14 2011, 12:31 PM Post #9 |
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Very true, but the statistics I read a month or so ago still don't lie. |
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| KatzMotel | Apr 14 2011, 03:12 PM Post #10 |
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Yeah, but neither do my statistics I read a month ago. |
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| dearjenna | Apr 14 2011, 07:05 PM Post #11 |
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............... That's why I just said what you said is true, but you're still focusing on only one part of the argument. Education isn't just it, though a lot of people on my blog are focusing on it, too (but I said I wouldn't interfere), it goes deeper when it affects just the way we communicate with loved ones.
Edited by dearjenna, Apr 14 2011, 07:06 PM.
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| KatzMotel | Apr 14 2011, 07:41 PM Post #12 |
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I was just making fun of you for not citing your sources. Sorry.
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| dearjenna | Apr 14 2011, 07:58 PM Post #13 |
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Well I read it over a month ago so I wasn't exactly in a rush to go find the article again. It's not like I bookmarked it. :|
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| dearjenna | Apr 14 2011, 07:59 PM Post #14 |
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I definitely would consider it a regional thing, then, because here it is all about what is (or really 'was') new or popular on the internet... I definitely see your point and I'm glad we can understand one another for this. I suppose it would be best to label this somewhat postmodernist. Edited by dearjenna, Apr 14 2011, 08:01 PM.
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| 55K | Apr 14 2011, 10:43 PM Post #15 |
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Can we refrain from double posting, please? |
Voted "A serious lurker who'll one day live in a box!" Thanks Everyone!
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