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    Nintendo E3 Disscusion!; :>
    Topic Started: Jun 14 2010, 10:49 AM (4,823 Views)
    Togeshroob
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    Uhm, they already had announce OoT was not a port, and was in fact a remake. They said they were 'having fun adding new features' and didn't want to just slap the game on. I quoted Miyamoto on it a page or so back.

    But now that they went into detail about it, I cannot wait to see what they do! It's going to be so awesome :> I also wonder if full console style games will be developed on the 3DS from now on? Maybe they'll try some kind of top-down-style/console-style mix (moreso than PH and ST; those were 3D top-down)?
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    Jun 16 2010, 09:29 PM
    Uh, everything? Supposedly, the dungeon to dungeon translations are much smoother - you won't realize you're in a dungeon. Anything out side of that would be spoiling it, I suppose.



    That sounds awesome.
    Edited by Pyroll7, Jun 16 2010, 09:40 PM.
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    IceCatraz
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    @Togeshroob - I just posted this, but it fell to the back page. So, I'll post it again. Your question is answered in it.

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    There's no actual spoilers - its just really long. Don't worry, he doesn't reveal anything. Also, Four Swords DS 3D a possibility? Yes please.
    Edited by IceCatraz, Jun 16 2010, 09:44 PM.
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    Togeshroob
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    Hm, that was really interesting. This part made me laugh -

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    It's interesting - because we're doing this with Nintendo 3DS as well - when we look at new hardware platforms and consult with software teams, we ask "what are you guys looking for, what do you want?" And everyone who comes and talks to me says, "Hey, if we're going to put Zelda on this platform, what would you like to do?


    Because that's exactly what I was doing ;p But I love that man so much, he has such good vision for his games. He and Miyamoto. And I knew Miyamoto would come through with orchestrated music :D The bad thing for him now, though... Well, by including orchestrated music in SMG, they set themselves up to be obligated to put it in SMG2. And of course by putting it in Mario, they, like Miyamoto said would've had to put it in Zelda. Now, anything less than orchestration in the future will be looked down upon. Great for the fans, but I hope it's not too taxing for the developers :<

    And I would love to see more Four Sword. Main Reason? VAATI <3 Also, the fact that he is more than just toying with the notion is delicious. It seems like he really wants to do this :>

    And it's good to know the top-down games probably won't be discarded. I was already imagining tons of fans in uproar if it was being tossed. And I agree with him; with the new perspective, there could be many interesting innovations with top-down style Zelda.
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    Right, but one of the huge things that I'm sure every developer is quarreling with is the fact that the 3D can be turned off. This fact alone is pretty taxing on development - you have to practically design every element twice. And it's much different than designing a movie in 3D - most movies are only about 2 hours long. That's two hours of enduring a 3D experience. But what if they made a 70 hour long RPG in 3D? They'd have to make every attack, every element of the game see-able in both 3D and 2D, because surely, after a while, your eyes would strain.

    I think that's the biggest problem with making a game using the 3D aspect - even more so for a top down Zelda game. Of course, I'm sure they'll find a way around it, but the idea itself might turn some developers off. Though, I'm sure after everyone gets their hands on some of the titles Nintendo's shown, all hands will be on deck for new games.
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    Togeshroob
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    Huh. I hadn't seen nor thought about that. Very good point... I guess it's not like absolutely everything has to be 3D though? This reminds me of what Aonum said in that interview you posted about the left-handed SS playing - they didn't want to make the game twice.

    Well now that I know, I'm very interested to see how they'll work with/around this. I guess it depends on how the 3D works in relation to non-3D graphics. Is the 3D entirely different or is it a modified version of the normal? If that latter, this shouldn't pose too much of a problem...

    Also, there's not just two settings, full 3D and none. IIRC there's several settings in between for varying amounts of 3D. So that just makes this more confusing :S
    Edited by Togeshroob, Jun 16 2010, 10:50 PM.
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    IceCatraz
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    Yeah, there's a slider that controls the depth/strength of the 3D effect.

    Nintendo keeps on stressing that the design of the 3DS isn't final - but in an interview, the hardware designer (Hideo Konno) says that the design should be considered final, and that any changes would be minute. That's pretty cool to hear, as I really like the current design. I'm not a fan of where the stylus holder is, but to be honest, that's one of those "personal preference" things. Plus, the stylus is telescoping!

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    Reaper.
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    Im probably going to trade in the dsi for a 3ds , I wont use it when I get the 3ds anway and I save money !
    whats not to like ?
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    Away saving Yoshis.

    Btw, the camera's on the 3DS are terrible. They're apparently only 0.3 megapixels. :S

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    Some big news about a feature we were previously unaware of - Software Installation.

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    According to the financial paper, 3DS owners will be able to install software to internal memory. You can install multiple games simultaneously. Doing so will eliminate the need to swap out cartridges when switching games. Instead, you just select your next title from the main system menu.

    The paper states that gamers will be able to put this feature to use when they're on the move, as they'll no longer need to carry games with them.

    But how will it work? How will Nintendo make sure that people don't copy games to multiple systems? And will the 3DS have enough storage space to copy over multiple carts?

    As one might expect, the Nikkei report did not get into specifics. We'll have to wait for comment directly from Nintendo.

    For those wondering if Nikkei is simply referring to the ability to download games similar to the current DSi Ware program, this does not seem to be the case. The paper lists this feature as new for the 3DS and something that matches up in class with the conversion to 3D.


    Also, a bit of news about the release date
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    Eurogamer is reporting that Nintendo is aiming to launch this 3DS in at least one territory this year and believes the system will definitely see a worldwide release “by early next year.” While the company is looking to have the handheld in stores for the holiday season, it’s possible that the launch could be delayed until 2011. Nintendo declined to comment on the 3DS’ release date or price, though it has been said that it will be out before the fiscal year ending March 2011.


    If they allow you to install games onto the 3DS, I will be extatic. But that brings up a few more questions:

    1. How much internal memory will the 3DS have?
    2. Will it be expandable? We know of SD Card support, but will you be able to stream games off of it?
    3. Will Nintendo release different models based on internal memory? (Similar to Apple with the iPhone) I definitely hope not.

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    Yeah, it's not too amazing. However, everyone that had hands on said that it works just fine, and the camera speed itself has been increased apparently (tracking), so we'll see.
    Edited by IceCatraz, Jun 17 2010, 11:06 AM.
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    Reaper.
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    I think its safe to assume that the one territory will be the japan area , if not it will still not be europe :S
    USA got the ds before anyone else , and japan normaly gets most of the consles before anyone , now it should be europes turn .
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    The installation sounds really awesome. Does that mean all retail games will be downloadable off of the Nintendo store? Because that would be awesome, PSP Go-style.

    And I really hope they release the 3DS this year, but if they need to delay it to 2011 to make it better that would be fine with me.
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    Reaper.
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    how much internal memory is this thing going to need ?
    the game cards will have 2gb on them , the wii only has 512 mb internal memory .
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    Togeshroob
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    Got some tasty, tasty info here. First, sort of a nod to the piracy question -
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    IGN: Piracy is unfortunately enormous on the DS. I'm wondering what sort of measures you're applying to the 3DS that will prevent people from stealing games?

    Konno: Unfortunately we can't talk about those details, but Nintendo takes piracy very seriously. And we'll enhance and improve all the protection we can. It's very important

    Hm.

    But I love this part -
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    IGN: I've got just a couple more questions. Of all the games that are out there, what's the one Nintendo property that you'd like to see in 3D that isn't there yet?

    Konno: There are so many!

    IGN: It doesn't have to be just one.

    Konno: I think Luigi's Mansion, that I created for GameCube, would be a good game for the 3DS. The lighting of the game, and the dollhouse-like environment of the game I think would be very suitable for 3D. I think the depth and the width of the environments, like a box, that we had in Luigi's Mansion would be a very good match for the effects of the 3DS.

    This means it's not being made or anything, but I would love that so much, and completely agree :>

    Also I think the installation is wonderful as well. This is probably to help the eternal tag mode state of the system; to have the memory of game data to be exchanged and all. Also, automatic Wifi downloads sounds so good :>
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    luigis mansion in 3d ?
    sounds good :)
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