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Does anyone still have faith in Nintendo?
Tweet Topic Started: Mar 25 2009, 03:26 PM (2,058 Views)
BSaint	Apr 24 2009, 08:57 AM Post #61
Goomba Posts: 16 Group: Goomba Member #11,470 Joined: December 2, 2008	I still have faith in tv Wii. I play all types of games. And I'm excited for games that are geting ready to come out. But yeah it would be nice to see them come out with more hard core games.



Supa Shnipa	Apr 27 2009, 06:07 PM Post #62
Goomba Posts: 2 Group: Goomba Member #11,918 Joined: April 27, 2009	I'm losing faith BIG TIME! Nintendo messed up The Conduit, they treat us like 5 year olds!



sorrow	Apr 28 2009, 07:18 PM Post #63
Goomba Posts: 15 Group: Goomba Member #11,923 Joined: April 28, 2009	As long as they keep producing, i believe in them. Not that i like their products and stuff, but people always buy whatever they release.



SEGAGIGA	May 21 2009, 10:01 AM Post #64
Goomba Posts: 23 Group: Goomba Member #11,952 Joined: May 11, 2009	I still have my faith in Nintendo to keep things in check. Without Nintendo there won't be any true gaming company left that has the guts to bring revolutionary concepts in gaming. My heart still bleeds for SEGA though, today's SEGA is nowhere near as creative or inspired as it used to. -09.09.09 "Happy 10th Anniversary Dreamcast"!



IceCatraz	May 21 2009, 10:41 AM Post #65
Roar of Mufasa Posts: 9,215 Group: Administration Member #1,391 Joined: February 11, 2006 Gender Male Coins 29	Supa Shnipa Apr 27 2009, 06:07 PM I'm losing faith BIG TIME! Nintendo messed up The Conduit, they treat us like 5 year olds! Quote: The Conduit Developer(s): High Voltage Software Publisher(s): Sega Fail.
	Tanks


BlueX09	May 21 2009, 12:35 PM Post #66
ChuChu Posts: 46 Group: ChuChu Member #11,962 Joined: May 13, 2009	First up, Nintendo did screw up The Conduit by forcing High Voltage to lose the LAN play and enforce the Friend Code system. Nintendo actually has control of what comes out of Nintendo Platforms. Ever notice that Nintendo Seal of Quality? I haven't lost faith in Nintendo, they've just disappointed me lately with the casual business. I do expect them to make it up at E3 09 though.
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IceCatraz	May 21 2009, 02:40 PM Post #67
Roar of Mufasa Posts: 9,215 Group: Administration Member #1,391 Joined: February 11, 2006 Gender Male Coins 29	BlueX09 May 21 2009, 12:35 PM First up, Nintendo did screw up The Conduit by forcing High Voltage to lose the LAN play and enforce the Friend Code system. Nintendo actually has control of what comes out of Nintendo Platforms. Ever notice that Nintendo Seal of Quality? I haven't lost faith in Nintendo, they've just disappointed me lately with the casual business. I do expect them to make it up at E3 09 though. No, wrong. Nintendo didn't screw anyone or anything up. Both SEGA and High Voltage knew from the very beginning that Nintendo's online communications (through Nintendo), would require the use of the Friend Code System. Screwing them up would be telling them they wouldn't need it, and then telling them they did. Being that, HVS designed the game with the weight of the FCS in mind. Nintendo has stated that all online games in which a friend system will be incooperated (through Nintendo's own service) would require either Wii Codes or Friend Codes until other wise noted. The comment before in question was directed at the statement Nintendo Messed Up The Conduit - which they could not have done, because, other than the LAN inforcement, they had nothing to do with play during development or after. HVS should've checked with Nintendo before claiming LAN, as well. It's not as if Nintendo O.K'd them on it, and then declined them. There have been several games that would've used LAN, but had the feature removed. HVS chose not to incooperate Splitscreen, not Nintendo. Edited by IceCatraz, May 21 2009, 02:42 PM.
	Tanks


BlueX09	May 23 2009, 04:35 PM Post #68
ChuChu Posts: 46 Group: ChuChu Member #11,962 Joined: May 13, 2009	IceCatraz May 21 2009, 02:40 PM BlueX09 May 21 2009, 12:35 PM First up, Nintendo did screw up The Conduit by forcing High Voltage to lose the LAN play and enforce the Friend Code system. Nintendo actually has control of what comes out of Nintendo Platforms. Ever notice that Nintendo Seal of Quality? I haven't lost faith in Nintendo, they've just disappointed me lately with the casual business. I do expect them to make it up at E3 09 though. No, wrong. Nintendo didn't screw anyone or anything up. Both SEGA and High Voltage knew from the very beginning that Nintendo's online communications (through Nintendo), would require the use of the Friend Code System. Screwing them up would be telling them they wouldn't need it, and then telling them they did. Being that, HVS designed the game with the weight of the FCS in mind. Nintendo has stated that all online games in which a friend system will be incooperated (through Nintendo's own service) would require either Wii Codes or Friend Codes until other wise noted. The comment before in question was directed at the statement Nintendo Messed Up The Conduit - which they could not have done, because, other than the LAN inforcement, they had nothing to do with play during development or after. HVS should've checked with Nintendo before claiming LAN, as well. It's not as if Nintendo O.K'd them on it, and then declined them. There have been several games that would've used LAN, but had the feature removed. HVS chose not to incooperate Splitscreen, not Nintendo. No, wrong. Some of EA's Wii games require no friend codes and go through their own internet interface. Actually, the DS disney games even have that feature. However, High Voltage did chose to do Nintendo WFC because its the standard and they ran out of time. Remember that because Nintendo WFC is run by Nintendo, Nintendo has approve what goes on. Also, Nintendo also needs to give it the official Nintendo seal of quality in order for it to be marketed. SEGA played more of a role on the Conduit than Nintendo, but Nintendo's policies did hinder the Conduit to being the best it could be. Hopefully, the next Conduit will take advantage of DLC and motion plus since Nintendo recently added them. (Motion plus was utilized, but they decided to take it out for a better experience, same goes with split screen play for a better single player experience). I know my Nintendo.
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IceCatraz	May 23 2009, 05:16 PM Post #69
Roar of Mufasa Posts: 9,215 Group: Administration Member #1,391 Joined: February 11, 2006 Gender Male Coins 29	BlueX09 May 23 2009, 04:35 PM IceCatraz May 21 2009, 02:40 PM BlueX09 May 21 2009, 12:35 PM First up, Nintendo did screw up The Conduit by forcing High Voltage to lose the LAN play and enforce the Friend Code system. Nintendo actually has control of what comes out of Nintendo Platforms. Ever notice that Nintendo Seal of Quality? I haven't lost faith in Nintendo, they've just disappointed me lately with the casual business. I do expect them to make it up at E3 09 though. No, wrong. Nintendo didn't screw anyone or anything up. Both SEGA and High Voltage knew from the very beginning that Nintendo's online communications (through Nintendo), would require the use of the Friend Code System. Screwing them up would be telling them they wouldn't need it, and then telling them they did. Being that, HVS designed the game with the weight of the FCS in mind. Nintendo has stated that all online games in which a friend system will be incooperated (through Nintendo's own service) would require either Wii Codes or Friend Codes until other wise noted. The comment before in question was directed at the statement Nintendo Messed Up The Conduit - which they could not have done, because, other than the LAN inforcement, they had nothing to do with play during development or after. HVS should've checked with Nintendo before claiming LAN, as well. It's not as if Nintendo O.K'd them on it, and then declined them. There have been several games that would've used LAN, but had the feature removed. HVS chose not to incooperate Splitscreen, not Nintendo. No, wrong. Some of EA's Wii games require no friend codes and go through their own internet interface. Actually, the DS disney games even have that feature. However, High Voltage did chose to do Nintendo WFC because its the standard and they ran out of time. Remember that because Nintendo WFC is run by Nintendo, Nintendo has approve what goes on. Also, Nintendo also needs to give it the official Nintendo seal of quality in order for it to be marketed. SEGA played more of a role on the Conduit than Nintendo, but Nintendo's policies did hinder the Conduit to being the best it could be. Hopefully, the next Conduit will take advantage of DLC and motion plus since Nintendo recently added them. (Motion plus was utilized, but they decided to take it out for a better experience, same goes with split screen play for a better single player experience). I know my Nintendo. No, not wrong. IceCatraz Nintendo's online communications (through Nintendo)......Nintendo has stated that all online games in which a friend system will be incooperated (through Nintendo's own service) That is, EXACTLY what I said. EA has their own server system, payed by and maintained by them, which is why they don't have to use WFC, which is why there is no FC needed. HV used NWFC not because they ran out of time, but because they simply don't have the resources to create and maintain a world wide server system that would only support a single game. They just aren't big enough. EA and Disney, on the other hand, are. Nintendo's policies didn't hinder them; their policies were in place long before HV even thought of making a Wii game. There are several other ways to go about internet on the Wii. SEGA is a company that is large enough to have it's own service (not that it's fiscally prudent, but it would prove to be more sucess in terms of hits and matiaince leave than them tagging onto other online services.) It's like blaming the government after breaking a law, when the law was set in stone several hundreds of years back. (More or less blue than red, but the point remains) Plus, Motion Plus wasn't implemented due to time restraints and the lack of features available in the actual game for which the Motion Plus could've been used (along with several, unsolvable technical issues), not because it's absence would create a more immersive single player or multiplayer experience. You need to actually read what was said before posting. You were wrong in stating that Nintendo ruined the game by forcing the FCS. The FCS is the only way to play a game with friends on Nintendo's Service. They didn't force them; it just can't be done any other way through Nintendo. It can be thought of as a hinderince if only there were no other way, which, in this case, there was. "Knowing Nintendo" would've proved to be an insight in such moments. Edited by IceCatraz, May 23 2009, 05:19 PM.
	Tanks


skyypilot	May 26 2009, 04:39 PM Post #70
Goomba Posts: 18 Group: Goomba Member #11,595 Joined: January 8, 2009	I still have faith in Nintendo, but it is now on shakey ground. The reason for this is that it seems to me that Nintendo has forgotten what has brought them their fans, the home console system. It seems to me that 2009 will be the year for the DS and DSi and the new DSiWare. Now to some this may seem like a good thing because of all the original IP's for the DSi but what about the home console gamers that got Nintendo where they are today. I feel that the Wii needs to get the same amount of original IP's that the DSi is getting now. Show Wii owners the same love Nintendo!
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Xiphosura	May 30 2009, 07:33 AM Post #71
Koopa Posts: 82 Group: Koopa Member #11,990 Joined: May 25, 2009	look, this is how it goes; Wii-for kids PS3-for teens X-Box-for adults Atari-Old Skool



WindmillMan	May 30 2009, 07:36 AM Post #72
Rocky Raccoon Posts: 615 Group: Toadette Member #11,408 Joined: November 13, 2008	Xiphosura look, this is how it goes; Wii-for kids PS3-for teens X-Box-for adults Atari-Old Skool Wrong. There are a lot of games on the wii that are in fact not for kids. The X-Box is as much for teens as the PS3. Atari fine.



KatzMotel	May 30 2009, 09:52 AM Post #73
:3 Posts: 9,213 Group: Administration Member #867 Joined: August 23, 2005	skyypilot I still have faith in Nintendo, but it is now on shakey ground. The reason for this is that it seems to me that Nintendo has forgotten what has brought them their fans, the home console system. It seems to me that 2009 will be the year for the DS and DSi and the new DSiWare. Now to some this may seem like a good thing because of all the original IP's for the DSi but what about the home console gamers that got Nintendo where they are today. I feel that the Wii needs to get the same amount of original IP's that the DSi is getting now. Show Wii owners the same love Nintendo! I dunno. Handheld sales were one of the reasons Nintendo was able to remain looking so financially healthy after the N64 and Gamecube didn't sell as well as they probably should have done. I see where you're coming from, though.



KingClown50	May 31 2009, 04:25 PM Post #74
Goomba Posts: 1 Group: Goomba Member #12,007 Joined: May 31, 2009	well, i dont think there is any ? whetther the next (Wii) Zelda game will be good, its how long they take to make it. 1 Zelda game per 50 Cooking Mamas is not good
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Doopliss	Jun 2 2009, 03:48 PM Post #75
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