Squiggles

Mar 26 2009, 04:53 PM

Absolutely none. They've gone to the casual side and that doesn't mean the games are as good. Casual gamers have lower standards, because they don't have video games as their main hobby. Nintendo may be adapting to a changing market and maybe they'll turn back, but this has shown that Nintendo are simply profit driven - whether or not that was the case beforehand I don't know - perhaps they were just making games that fit the market. I love some of what Ninty have done: Pokemon, Mario, but they're becoming mascots and get less and less lovable. Perhaps I'm just growing out of Nintendo...

And I know that maybe we should be giving casual gamers a chance, but the fact is the definition of a casual gamer is someone that lets a potentially artistic medium run in the background, and could just as easily be replaced by the next passing fad. Give them something but don't change the entire damn company to fit people that treat the medium that gave us Half Life, The Legend of Zelda and Gears of War like a toy. Casual games have been around since games as a concept began, and let's be honest - Nintendo aren't even doing that well in the casual market. It's expensive, little value for money and swamped by other companies.

Pulse

Mar 26 2009, 05:47 PM

No, I lost a ton of faith in Nintendo after they released the joke of a game that is Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Smash is my favorite game series - Melee and SSB64 are numbers 1 and 2 in the list of my favorite games of all time. But Brawl was just horrible. They don't really care about real gamers anymore, anyway - just grandmas and soccer moms now, it seems.

It's not that I can blame them though. After all, they are a company and nothing more -- and they'll do whatever it takes to earn the most money.

IceCatraz

Mar 26 2009, 03:22 PM

Vasioth

Mar 26 2009, 12:26 PM

IceCatraz

Mar 25 2009, 07:28 PM

Why wouldn't I? Nintendo is a gaming company out to make money. They hold the highest selling IP's in the world, and rake in cash by making games tailored for everyone under the sun. They have every kind of game out there, for every audience. It just makes sense have to faith in them. 20 years and still going strong.

I honestly don't see how anyone can say that Wii's gone downhill. You may not like the games that they are making for it, but they are still making games that are selling. Lots. Their methods may be questionable, but the outcome is clear; money makes them happy. Good Games make the customers happy. Because they are making so much money, then it must make sense that they are making good games. In theory, of course..

Plus, they make the best darndest extreme puzzle games out there. Should they amp up their online service, fix their storage problem, and secure a few choice third party developers, they'd be golden. As for games; it's all a matter of opinion. Fact is, you hit the kids when they are young, kill the parent's wallets, and when they get older, bang. It's quite genius, really. Let's just hope every kid acts like textbook cases of "annoying brats."

Edit

It's a good thing everyone thinks in a manner different than yours, Vasioth.

Or else Nintendo would go bankrupt if they did right? I was going along with this textbook junk, its sweet and its how you were brought up to the next or new generation of Video Gaming... like I was brought up to believe that no matter how good graphics are, always go for the quality of gameplay instead. (Which is why I stuck with Nintendo as a stupid Fanboy to the age of 15)
I'm not going to argue with you on the Samantics of how to sell games now a-day. That method in which is happening in front of your eyes with casual gamers works fantastically while you have core gamers that pick up the control and wonder if there is a "New" good game to play with fantastic gameplay factors coming out (Now this depends on your type of genre of game of course like your basic RPGs,Adventures,FPS, Platformers, etc).

There's nothing wrong with the way in which I don't place Faith with them; I'll decide my faith with one of Nintendo's next huge mascot games such as a Zelda (Not the spinoffs) or Mario(Same applies) if it has good gameplay.

Edit: Turns out you've lived longer then me, so it may not completely be your case scenario but it is for the newer generation because well, its the new generation.

The comment was directed at the core reasoning behind the statement; not a lack of knowledge, but a difference in opinion. And no, they wouldn't go bankrupt; gaming simply wouldn't exist in the fashion that we now have it. Based off of a single opinion, there would be no more than 1 or 2 companies that, at the very least, would have little to no need for rivals because the goal was already met. It'd be like having 5 companies make the same exact product as opposed to one. Something like Pepsico and Coca Cola Company if you will, but instead of the other, smaller variables, but few to none at all. Not total control, but god damn most of it.

It has, in the long run, more to do with lasting power than age. Our age difference may be a factor, as I've been exposed to games in general for a much longer period, but it's not the only factor. Nintendo (and, for a large part, Disney)'s casual approach in the current market isn't an amenity; it's required. Games are aimed at a certain audience. Nintendo widens that audience. Should the audience stay the same, gaming would be, for the most part, conformed to a certain age group. My parents played Space Invaders when they were around my age in the arcades, yet they don't partake in the producers product anymore. However, I've played Donkey Kong and Pac-Man when they first came out, and I'm still with the companies that produced them. My point is; introduction at a young age is a clever tactic. Nintendo has staying power with the younger audience because of the casual games, while they maintain power over gaming veterans because of the influence they imprinted on them when they were younger.

Faith isn't only in the games; you don't maintain faith in a company just because of it's product. Poor managment slays good products, as some now defunct studios could testify to. I have faith in Nintendo's overall plan and the way they produce their product. They hit all audiences with great impact; it's just that there are more casual players than there are hardcore.

Picklegod

Mar 25 2009, 03:34 PM

Sidenote: As a personal observation, gamers are, in general, jerks to new gamers. In this sense, Nintendo's really doing a great thing by introducing more people to gaming.

Pulse

Mar 26 2009, 05:47 PM

No, I lost a ton of faith in Nintendo after they released the joke of a game that is Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Smash is my favorite game series - Melee and SSB64 are numbers 1 and 2 in the list of my favorite games of all time. But Brawl was just horrible. They don't really care about real gamers anymore, anyway - just grandmas and soccer moms now, it seems.

It's not that I can blame them though. After all, they are a company and nothing more -- and they'll do whatever it takes to earn the most money.