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Fallout 3
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LK	Nov 16 2008, 11:38 PM Post #1
iminspace Posts: 18,081 Group: Active Ancients Member #794 Joined: July 28, 2005 Gender Male Coins 5	Fallout 3 Developer: Bethesda Softworks Publisher: Bethesda Softworks Release Date: October 28th, 2008 Genre: RPG Platform: Xbox 360/PC/PS3 Rating: M - Mature Lots of Fallout fans across the globe were extremely disappointed with the direction of the the third Fallout game. Instead of the same old strategy game, like the last games, Bethesda took the franchise over, and absolutely shook it up. Bethesda Softworks were the team responsible for the Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, which by the way, was an amazing game. The team decided to go with the same formula but in the post-apocalyptic Fallout universe. It was a bold move at the time, but after a considerable time with the game, and 830 achievement points later, I’m finally going to give my opinion of the game, oh, and it’s a good one. The game starts, well, just as you’re brought out of the whom as a child. There, you can pick your sex, face, and name. The customization options aren’t really brilliant though, in fact, all of the faces I tried to choose looked nearly identical with a little different touches here and there. After the brief customization, suddenly your mother starts to go into cardiac arrest, and later sadly passes away. You live in a vault underground of Washington D.C. called Vault 101. Why are you in a Vault? Well, Fallout 3’s history is a reversed history of real life. Humans built these things called Vaults under the ground to ensure that if the nuclear bombs were to drop, you would be safe. And what happened? The bombs dropped, and everything above the Vault has gone bad. After you’re taught the basics like fighting, shooting, and text conversations, you are awoken from sleep when your dad flees from the vault. On the way you can shoot the guards in your way to try and escape as well, but you are given some serious choices right away. In one instance there’s a bully that has been tormenting you since day one, and he wants you to save his mother before she gets killed by bugs. You can either let her die, or save her, it’s your choice. You can also try and save one of your friends who’s been captured by her father who is the overseer of the Vault. You can kill him to save her, or leave her be. It’s your choice. The game has a lot of these moral choices throughout the game, and I really like the way they’re put together. One instance there’s a guy that wants you to stop the Ghouls (humans that were severely burnt by the nukes; look like zombies) from trying to get into his building. You can either kill the guy for being an ass, kill the Ghouls, or talk it out. The only downside to the moral choices you make aren’t really reprehensible. Say you killed a whole city of people, and travel to another city to talk to other people. They wont talk to you like you’re a murderer or anything, they actually wont even care. The only thing that the choices you make change is your Karma. You can easily get bad and good Karma by doing things, but usually the right thing to do is good, so most people will have good Karma by the end of the game. But anyway, your character eventually escapes the Vault, and right when you exit you can see the destruction the Nukes did right off the bat. You’ll see buildings half destroyed, cars being burned, and mutated animals running all over the place. The scope is also ridiculously awesome. You’ll see broken overpasses miles away, you’ll see the Washington Monument in the distance, and you can see mountains pretty much where ever you are. It’s an amazing site, it really is. Your main mission is to find your father who escaped the Vault a little bit earlier and to see what the hell is going on. If you’ve played Oblivion on the 360 or PS3, then you’ll know exactly what to expect from Fallout 3, just in a different setting, being able to shoot guns, and no magic. A couple of the major similarities to each other is being able to play in first person or 3rd person by simple pressing in the Left Bumper. 3rd person looks cool sometimes, but it’s meant to be played in 1st person, and the animations can look really bad. In first person you can attack enemies easier, see more in front of you, and it’s just a better experience. Fallout 3 also has a inventory where you can pretty much pick up any item you see including cutlery. The inventory is managed with this cool-looking watch called the Pip-Boy. You can search through different menus like your weapons, your current objectives, and of course, your map. Like Oblivion, fast traveling to a destination you’ve already discovered is a definite necessity to complete the game in under a month. The post-apocalyptic Washington D.C. is massive, and it could easily take you half an hour to walk from one end to the other, and no, there’s no other means of transportation other than walking/running/holding the analog stick in the up direction. You can easily find places to discover though because the HUD has a good compass that tells you if a area is close by. There are tons of places to explore as well, because I got the achievement for finding 100 places, and it’s only around half of the places on my map (I have the explorer perk by the way; tells you where every area is on the map). Combat is different, but also similar to Oblivion. You can still use close combat like attacking enemies with baseball bats and sledgehammers, but the bulk of your combat will come with guns. There were barely any firearms in Oblivion, besides the bow and arrow, so it will be pretty odd using the guns when starting the game. If you decide to play Fallout 3 like a first person shooter, you will most likely get killed, and get killed quickly. This is because there’s a V.A.T.S. system where you tap the right bumper, and you can freeze time to try and shoot certain body parts with different percentages. Say you want to try and shoot an enemy’s arm off because he’s shooting you too much. Go into VATS, target his arm, and fire away. Your character will have AP (action points), so you’ll have to use your shots wisely. The combat is definitely satisfying by itself, but using VATS is a blast. You can purposely shoot out their legs, or blast off their head, and it looks oh-so gruesome. The VATS system can get repetitive, especially when you are near the end of the game, and every enemy dies really easily. Fallout 3 is also an RPG, and playing the game like an FPS will get you absolutely no where, so be cautious when deciding to make a purchase of the game. But other than some minor gripes, and how you character will miss shots a good majority of the time, the combat is still fun and engaging. The weapon variety is pretty decent, but the awesome thing about the weapons is that you can fix a weapon that’s nearly broken with another of the same type’s parts. So say you have a nearly broken shotgun. If you find another shotgun on a dead body, you can use that gun to fix the one you already have, but this is when the RPG elements of the game really kick in. Every time you kill an enemy, pick a lock, or find an area on the map, you’ll gain experience points which you can eventually level up to a cap of 20. After every level you gain, you can then spend a certain number of points to each of the following skills: Barter, Science, Sneak, Medicine, Repair, Explosives, Melee Weapons, Small Guns, Speech, Energy Weapons, Unarmed, Lock Pick, and Big Guns. To accomplish certain objectives during the game like hacking a terminal, or repairing weapons (like mentioned above), you have to upgrade each one to a certain number. If you want to pick the “Very Hard” locks, you have to have 100 Lock Pick skill, etc. But you can also pick a certain perk each level (so you would have 20 by level 20). Some will be something like “Increasing your unarmed skill”, or some will be unique like ‘Lady Killer’ which will let you do more damage to a female character, and you can do certain conversations you would never be able to do before. Pretty much gameplay element of Fallout 3 is near flawless, but only if you like the kind of game. For someone who likes first person shooters, you probably wont like this game. Sure, there’s shooting of guns, and it’s in a first person view, but it doesn’t have the same pace. Fallout 3 isn’t an FPS with RPG elements, it’s an RPG with FPS elements, and some may not like it that way. But even though the gameplay is quite good, there’s still stuff I didn’t care for. I never liked how you can collect pretty much every item you ever see because sometimes you’ll try and collect a certain item on a table, but a fork or a battery will be beside a thing of ammo, and you’ll accidently pick them up instead of the ammo. This is because the inventory, while being the best it can, takes up way too much time. You’ll collect too much weapons and items that you’ll eventually become over-encumbered, so you’ll have to either drop items, or fix your weapons to get some of the weight off you shoulders. It can get pretty annoying when you’re crawling through a hideout, nowhere near a shop, and you get over-encumbered, and have to drop a bunch of high valued weight. Some weapons are also almost impossible to come across unless you’re absolutely sure where to search. The Alien Blaster for example is on a Alien who crashed into the earth, but if you didn’t know where to look, you’d never find it. I actually never even knew about it until I read about it, I was level 19 at the time. The ending of the game is also kind of disappointing. I’m not going to spoil it, but after Oblivion’s main quest you could continue with sidequests and stuff, but in Fallout 3, you simply cannot. I suggest saving the game before the mission begins, though the game does save just before the final part of the mission for you, but I’d rather not even begin the mission until I was absolutely ready. But one thing you cannot say bad about in Fallout 3 is its amazing audio. Fallout 3 has a great moody and creepy soundtrack, and also has some classic tunes that play on the radio to keep the post-apocalyptic mood alive. Every character will have amazing voice acting with tons and tons of different dialog options. Though like Oblivion, a lot of different characters will have identical voices, but it works either way. The yells and the screams of the ghouls and the super mutants are honestly spooky when low on health, and all of Fallout 3’s audio is near perfect. Like the audio, the visual presentation is also quite good in Fallout, just not AS good. Fallout 3 at first glance is absolutely beautiful. The textures of rocks and buildings look stunning, the lighting is brilliant, and the character models are even better than Oblivion’s. The enemies, the cities, and the rest of the environments look absolutely amazing, there’s no doubting that at all. The real bummer though is the sloppy animation this and Oblivion are known for. Running with your character in 3rd person looks terrible, and the running of enemies to a certain position look very clunky, like when a character has to be in a certain spot to start or continue in a mission. It all looks like Oblivion was 2 years ago, and lots of games have figured out animations and done them right, it really is too bad. Another thing I didn’t like about Oblivion, and still bugs me (pun intended) in Fallout 3, is the amount of bugs and glitches that happen. Some quests in Oblivion were impossible to complete with certain bugs, and the same can easily happen in Fallout 3. There was one bug for example that happened to me during the Head of State mission. Near the end you have to meet these ex-slaves at the Lincoln Memorial, but if you fast travel since it takes less time, you have to use the ‘wait’ option by clicking select. Eventually the the ex-slaves will stop traveling, and when you go and meet up, they’ll be fighting enemies and some will be dead. I had to do this mission are 2 to 3 times to complete it normally. Fallout 3 also locks up randomly, and textures sometimes wont load, though this barely happened in the 360 version I played (supposedly it happens a lot in the PS3 version). Fallout 3 is a freaking beast though. It can easily take you 50 hours to complete every quest (took me 45), and that’s just the main and side quests, not even including the free form quests (quests without achievements). There are also tons and tons of places to explore for better guns, armor, and other items. If you want to do completely everything, included having a good character, a neutral character, and an evil character, you easily spend 100 hours playing Fallout 3. There’s also 50 achievements in both the 360 and PC worth 1000 points, and I got 830 of them with one character, so if you love your e-penis, I suggest Fallout 3 to you. Overall, I highly suggest Fallout 3 to people that loved Oblivion, and to RPG fans. The game has tons of value, you easily spend 100 hours if you want, and the gameplay, visuals, and audio really tie everything together into one amazing package. Fallout 3 is definitely Oblivion with guns, but even though it is, it does everything Oblivion did right, and made it better, and added more. The bugs and glitches as well as the animation can get annoying during parts of the game, but most if not all can be avoided in any which way. So again, I highly suggest Fallout 3, it’s simply awesome. Edited by LK, Nov 16 2008, 11:38 PM.
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zane09	Nov 16 2008, 11:59 PM Post #2
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Picklegod	Nov 17 2008, 11:24 AM Post #3
Don't you agree, Zach? Posts: 5,078 Group: Former Staff Member #11,349 Joined: October 23, 2008 Coins 3	Admittedly, I only skimmed the the review. I sort of want this game, but I haven't played the previous ones. If I decide to get it, will I be completely lost in the plot? Or will I be able to understand everything?
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Scott	Nov 17 2008, 01:38 PM Post #4
Krystal Posts: 3,487 Group: Krystal Member #1,132 Joined: November 15, 2005	Oh good cheers for the review LK, getting the PS3 version for christmas so I can't wait, bummer about the textures for the PS3 (if so) but im sure it won't make to much difference. Still yeah great review and good helpfull tips that I haven't gotten before (even though I have readed a few reviews on Fallout 3) so yeah cheers. Edited by Scott, Nov 17 2008, 01:41 PM.



LK	Nov 17 2008, 03:20 PM Post #5
iminspace Posts: 18,081 Group: Active Ancients Member #794 Joined: July 28, 2005 Gender Male Coins 5	Picklegod Nov 17 2008, 11:24 AM If I decide to get it, will I be completely lost in the plot? Or will I be able to understand everything? No, it's quite easy to understand, just pay attention to the dialog. I could see someone getting confused by skipping all of the conversations.
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rustyscrew'	Nov 17 2008, 03:37 PM Post #6
RIP DAVIS Posts: 4,622 Group: Sage Member #1,797 Joined: June 30, 2006	Eh, I didn't like it much. Having my gun shots governed by dice rolls isn't for me. Good review.
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Iggy2010	Nov 17 2008, 04:44 PM Post #7
The Fickle Fascination of an Everlasting God Posts: 2,240 Group: Luigi Member #5,847 Joined: November 21, 2007	I'm really looking forward to getting this game for Christmas. I'm a huge RPG fan, but I also like FPS's. I've been excited for this game ever since I read the first preview for it about a year ago, and this review just makes me want it even more. Hopefully the PC version isn't as buggy as the 360 version, or at least by then some patches will be out. Anyway, great review.
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Koopa Klaus	Nov 17 2008, 05:23 PM Post #8
Retired Postaholic Posts: 2,625 Group: Pikachu Member #2,317 Joined: January 1, 2007	Great review LK! ^__^ I've been looking forward to the game for awhile now, great review once again.



Picklegod	Nov 17 2008, 08:28 PM Post #9
Don't you agree, Zach? Posts: 5,078 Group: Former Staff Member #11,349 Joined: October 23, 2008 Coins 3	Link Kid Nov 17 2008, 03:20 PM Picklegod Nov 17 2008, 11:24 AM If I decide to get it, will I be completely lost in the plot? Or will I be able to understand everything? No, it's quite easy to understand, just pay attention to the dialog. I could see someone getting confused by skipping all of the conversations. Thanks! I never skip the dialog in video games anyway. It takes away from the story.
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fatmac7	Nov 17 2008, 08:43 PM Post #10
Goomba Posts: 33 Group: Goomba Member #11,418 Joined: November 16, 2008	wasn't there a teddy bear bazooka at E3
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LK	Nov 18 2008, 12:23 AM Post #11
iminspace Posts: 18,081 Group: Active Ancients Member #794 Joined: July 28, 2005 Gender Male Coins 5	I wouldn't doubt it. There's a rocket launcher that shoots cups.
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zane09	Nov 18 2008, 12:28 AM Post #12
Burst link! Posts: 6,602 Group: Active Ancients Member #6,754 Joined: December 30, 2007 Gender Male Coins 11	Link Kid Nov 18 2008, 12:23 AM I wouldn't doubt it. There's a rocket launcher that shoots cups. I'm sold, I am definitely buying it now.
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Stu_J	Nov 18 2008, 06:17 PM Post #13
Kirby Posts: 1,673 Group: Kirby Member #387 Joined: April 1, 2005	I didn't enjoy it at all if I'm honest. Guess I'm still hooked on Oblivion and they're a bit too similar. Edited by Stu_J, Nov 18 2008, 06:17 PM.



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