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    I need to get out of here
    Topic Started: Nov 22 2007, 11:56 PM (1,522 Views)
    Ramen Hood
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    But y'all do say "out" funny. :P Maybe you could move to Switzerland, it seems like a very nice place to live. And the British government pretty much follows whatever we do, it's just that their military isn't as good. If you move to Canada and the U.S. turns evil(please no comment :)) then we're just going to turn on Canada and it will be no contest to who will win that fight. Britain will follow us in our evilness and be our sidekicks. Britain will eventually turn good again and try to fight us, be of course, we will win. All along Australia has been forming a resistence with China and Japan, and some groups in the U.S. The U.S. finally dies and the Australian resistence wins.

    Besides, if you were to move to Britain after Ron Paul for some reason loses the election, you can't buy gas or housing off the Internet, which are expensive as ass over there anyway.
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    Nov 23 2007, 10:36 AM
    I don't think the BNP is as much of a threat as some people would make them out to be. So far they've only had any success in local elections, and even then the extent of those successes is hardly that great. Certainly at a national level they've failed to make any sort of impact, and as I stated elsewhere, I suspect that the majority of their votes are just protest votes from the right of the Conservative party.

    Regarding the armed forces, there is a simple solution to any sort of funding problems: stop occupying other countries. The United Kingdom in fact has the second largest military expenditures of any country in the world.

    And relating to the last point, what would you actually give as the definition of 'British' or 'Britishness'? I think the problem so many people have is that they look back on the past with heavily rose-tinted spectacles. In my opinion, the United Kingdom of decades gone by was a pretty shite place. Things aren't particularly great nowadays and there are of course many things I'd have different, but it's certainly better than 50 years ago.


    I don't really believe that the BNP are much of a threat at all, they'll never make it into a power, but the very fact that there exists a party which openly promotes racism (and yes, I honestly believe that should they ever gain a foothold they would be pushing for moves which constitute such) proves my point.

    It's reached a point where people living here are sick of seeing illegal immigrants coming in, claiming benefits and not working. A party which promises to change this is going to find the support of people who read the red banner tabloids and believe everything said.
    I don't for a minute believe that this is the majority of cases, and I have absolutely no issue with people moving here to find legitimate work. I made my point much clearer in the debate forum.

    The position that the Armed Forces find themselves in is a bit of a joke. The Forces has no say in what goes on, it all comes down to Governmental rule, as I'm sure you're well aware. That's an altogether different debate.


    I've heard it said that to be patriotic is essentially a form of racism in itself. I don't subscribe to this theory because I don't see a problem in showing a bit of pride in where we come from. Yes, it's pointless because we have no control over the country we're born in, or who we're descended from, but it's still there.
    You can't define a country or a people, I'm not looking to stereotype anybody. The things that make us inherently British are all around us.
    Saying that, perhaps it's this 'great British reserve' that we hear about that keeps other groups segregated. Working down the South end of the country it becomes far more obvious that as a people we're generally not that friendly to our neighbours. Up North it isn't such a problem.

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    Ramen Hood
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    Ramen Hood - If you're going to talk a load of bollocks then please think before hitting that submit tab.

    Hello, I'm Ramen Hood. I sometimes like to show off my tongue-in-cheek ways. You're new, so you wouldn't know that I sometimes say things like this; not to piss poeple off, but just because I'm not a very serious person. ;)
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    I don't really believe that the BNP are much of a threat at all, they'll never make it into a power, but the very fact that there exists a party which openly promotes racism (and yes, I honestly believe that should they ever gain a foothold they would be pushing for moves which constitute such) proves my point.

    Parties, politicians and political movements that promote racism exist in pretty much every country. It's an inescapable fact. The BNP is really no more dangerous or interesting than any other.

    But regarding patriotism, though I agree with you insofar as it not being inherently racist, I'm afraid I believe it's inherently stupid. An effective appeal to people's patriotism is a simple way to control simple people-- look at how well the American people are led like sheep by morons with flag pins on their lapels just because they're told doing otherwise constitutes being 'unpatriotic'.

    The problem with the British people-- or pretty much all peoples in the Anglophone world-- is that they're just too apathetic and lazy to push for change.
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    Nov 24 2007, 01:25 PM
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    Ramen Hood - If you're going to talk a load of bollocks then please think before hitting that submit tab.

    Hello, I'm Ramen Hood. I sometimes like to show off my tongue-in-cheek ways. You're new, so you wouldn't know that I sometimes say things like this; not to piss poeple off, but just because I'm not a very serious person. ;)

    Then that is fair enough. Perhaps I jumped the gun, but making claims about your Armed Forces being superior to ours isn't so much tongue-in-cheek as it is a complete joke.
    No harm done, and my unreserved apologies if I seemed out of line.


    KatzMotel - to be quite honest I go through stages where I agree with what you're saying, and other phases where I follow the train of thought I previously expressed.
    I think it all depends on my situation at the time. I don't believe in the type of patriotism that brings people of a nation to believe themselves to be superior to everyone else, more in a style of patriotism that allows me to feel proud of my roots and where I came from, including the mistakes made by my country in the past as well as the good I believe we've done.

    Of course, issues such as these are nothing more than opinion. I don't feel as if I'd let my love for my country control my actions, but then again I've already said that I don't feel as if this country has a great deal going for it anymore. I am one very disillusioned Englishman.

    As a person I feel let down by the Government, and I have the right to say this because I do take the time to vote.

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    It's OK in Britain spare the whole cultural crisis that everyone seems to be having. I haven't been to the USA but UK culture probably won't be so different that you can't handle it. Where were you considering moving to though?
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    Nov 23 2007, 10:42 AM
    Yes, the non-existent accent. Very good reason.

    Only some people up north talk like that, and people in Newfoundland.

    If I can tell when a bunch of Canadians are screaming in a lobby, then there must be a difference.
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    Demand that people buy more American made products.
    Destroy the Middle East then take it's oil supplies.
    Don't elect Hillary Clinton.

    Just some thoughts I haev to fix it. The value of our dollar is lower because we rely so much on foreign objects because they are 'cheaper'. If we would depend on ourselves more, we wouldn't be in this mess. Of course we'd have to close down the plants that companies, originally from the U.S., made in other places as well.
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    The value of our dollar is lower because we rely so much on foreign objects


    And the war lol.

    I do agree with number 3 though. :)
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    MP1
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    I'm not going to go into my belief on the war... I'm not for or against this war. I think it's meaningless, yet i'm glad Bush took a stand.

    Anyways, the value of the dollar is definitely pretty low.. Not anything one individual can correct. It'd take a whole change in the American lifestyle, which frankly isn't going to happen.
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    loz
    Nov 24 2007, 03:44 PM
    I haven't been to the USA but UK culture probably won't be so different that you can't handle it.

    Daily life seems to be pretty much the same, but interpersonal aspects are quite different. Like, uh, you do the same things, but you don't act the same way. I guess.

    It's not so different you'd be screwed. It's like changing from vanilla ice cream to vanilla bean ice cream in the grand scheme of delicious delicious ice cream.

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    Canttouchthis04
    Nov 22 2007, 11:56 PM
    When I say here, I mean America. Our money is becoming worthless and our politicians are just indescribable.

    So I decided that I'm probably going to be moving to Britain in a couple of years. :) What do you say Katz? Am I making a good choice? :o

    This is sounding a bit...drastic. I mean, you're actually planning on seeking refuge in Britain from corruptness?..if anything, America is the lesser of two evils here. It's up to you, though, I wouldn't mind having more people from N-f in England ^^
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