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    Post Count Should Never Determine User Ability.
    Topic Started: Apr 23 2005, 08:08 PM (962 Views)
    Ganondorf718
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    After reporting several things to an unnanounced MOD, he said that as soon as i was Moblin rank he would nominate me for MOD position, and thats fine, but personally i dont want to be a MOD, i want to be seen as an equal first of all, i have every issue of nintendo power that was ever published, from the first one:

    http://www.x-entertainment.com/articles/0751/top.gif

    Which my uncle collected for me untill i was old enough, to the most recent issues. I love the nintendo fourums, and my favorite and newest thign to do on those fourums is to hang around the Newcommer Game Help board, and the Technical support board, so i can help people. On the invisionfree support fourumi love to help people there, i have read all there is and i know the IF SF like the palm of my hand. I am 18 years old, and soon i will be going off to college, and i will probally never be able to get online the ammount of time i can now ever again. Now i want to bring up the story of "Mez" from IF SF. He joined, and he was elevated to the highest rank achivable by a normal person Support Team with 76 posts. I want to be elligable, for Support Team rank, or another rank, as anyother higher ranking user would be. I want the staff to look outside of the box.

    I want to see a fair and just process without considering post, and user group. I want to see how mature and how well the Staff can think out of the box, and without other challenging factors, and act as the staff of older age act. I want them to become just for once older and make a fair judgement as if they were so. I am challenging them.
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    Ramen Hood
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    Just one comment. I think a users post count SHOULD count to his/her ability. But to some extent. It just shows that that user is loyal and such. I confess, I wouldn't make someone a mod here(if it was up to me) who had less than 200 posts probably. But it's reletivly easy to get that many posts actually, if you actually come here a good bit.
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    Apr 23 2005, 11:32 PM
    Just one comment. I think a users post count SHOULD count to his/her ability. But to some extent. It just shows that that user is loyal and such. I confess, I wouldn't make someone a mod here(if it was up to me) who had less than 200 posts probably. But it's reletivly easy to get that many posts actually, if you actually come here a good bit.

    I agree Ramen. You make a good point, Ganondorf about rankism being bad, but we aren't anything like that. I speak only for myself when I say this, but probably the only reason that mod told you he'd nominate you when you were Moblin was to help see that you're active. You've only just become active, but no one is predjudiced by another person's rank.
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    Ganondorf718
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    So then explain to me how specificaly user post counts is the only justifacation of a users fourum activity. :huh:
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    Ganondorf718
    Apr 24 2005, 09:23 AM
    So then explain to me how specificaly user post counts is the only justifacation of a users fourum activity. :huh:

    It's not the only factor. It helps determine their activity. Anyone could easily just log in and sit there on the main page and not actually view the forum, yet it would look as if they were actually on and doing something on the active users list. Also, you need at least a fair amount of posts to decide how good your post quality is as a whole.
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    Ganondorf718
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    I only post if i feel its actually nessicary, so i dont post that often, although i do view lots of the topics...
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    Ganondorf718
    Apr 24 2005, 09:23 AM
    So then explain  to me how specificaly user post counts is the only justifacation of a users  fourum activity.  :huh:

    It's not the only factor. It helps determine their activity. Anyone could easily just log in and sit there on the main page and not actually view the forum, yet it would look as if they were actually on and doing something on the active users list. Also, you need at least a fair amount of posts to decide how good your post quality is as a whole.

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    UltraMegaGigaBowser
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    posting is fun!!!

    again as i said on ur clock forum... ur 2 technical, this place is just meant 2 be fun!
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    C-MarioNLuigi
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    Take alook at my rank. I'm not the most active member, nor the least. And I dont have very many posts considering from when I joined. But I am a "sage", which is a advanced members. IMO, people who post more SHOULD get the ability to do more things. Because there more loyal to the forums, and are contributing more to the sites stats.

    As for being a mod, yes, IMO, a mod shouldnt have a very low amount of posts. A mod doesnt have to be EXTREME poster. But a mod SHOULD have a good QUANITY of posts, along with excellant quality of those quanity.

    Now I SERIOUSLY DISAGREE with your "challenging" them. You want them to change what as worked so well just for you? It makes no sense. Now be aware, there IS a rank for people who post very well. The "Sage" rank which I happen to be.

    So basically, after reading your post, your saying that pos count shouldnt do anything at all. And if post count shouldnt, then whats the point of having User Titles, if post count does nothing?

    Matt has done a GREAT job with the usergroups/titles/permission masks so far, and it doesnt need changed, OR challenged, its perfectly fine how it is. To change it or challenge it just because you disagree with the fact that you need posts to be consider a mod isnt worth the risk of possibly making other users mad.
    ~Yee~
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    Ganondorf718
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    Dissagreements are but mere walls built between all living beings, these walls however have holes, for beings to see one another though the others flaws.

    :)

    And whats this?

    http://support.invisionfree.com/index.php?showuser=47647

    And i do not dissagree with the post count rules, but it should not be the main determining thing of rank up ability for users.

    :)
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    C-MarioNLuigi
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    Call me "CMNL".......
    Your major flaw is that one of this forums many things that make it uniques IS its post count/User Titles. I truthfully do not care about "Mez" because "Mez" does not go to Nintendo Forums. Comparing a INVISIONFREE SUPPORT forum and a NINTENDO FORUM are 2 totally different things...seriously. For those 200 posts that he has, he could of helped 200 different people, thus getting him on the Global Support Team.

    Post count isnt the main thing for ranking up, but it IS a factor. A MAJOR factor. Post count is one of the few ways to determine how active a user is. If a user has 2 posts a day, should they seriously become Mod?

    Post Count is a HUGE factor, DISPITE what you think. This isnt a Invisionfree Support Forum. There are differences between NF and IFSupport Forums.
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    Ganondorf718
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    Actually the lowest post rating fo a support team member excluding him is 3000 something for Raven she moved on in life though. But still.

    And yes there is a difference in the Fourums a big one, the admins of the Invisionfree Support Fourums are 18+ years old... i dont know hoe old CTT is, but mat is about 14-15 looking at his profile.

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    C-MarioNLuigi
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    Call me "CMNL".......
    What does that have to do with the topic at hand?

    either way,
    I dont like how you "challenged" the admins to "think outside the box". They ARE thinking outside the box when they decided to make usergroups with different colors and posting ability along with user groups that go along with the user titles so you can see special forums at different points in post count. Normal forums dont do that, they do not have such a thing, they do have Elite members, but not special post count forums.

    By challenging them to change this, you want them to think INSIDE the box, or in other words, be just like a regular forum.
    ~Yee~
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    Ganondorf718
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    Well, i cant know if the admins are thinking outside of the box when i am not given sufficient data to show me the Moderator/ Staff selection process, maybe you know something i dont, and that could be another problem.

    And incorrect, i never gave them guidelines of how to think i merely challenged them and made suggestion it is up to them to make that decision. They are in complete control of the way thier own minds think.
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    C-MarioNLuigi
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    I want to see a fair and just process without considering post, and user group. I want to see how mature and how well the Staff can think out of the box, and without other challenging factors, and act as the staff of older age act. I want them to become just for once older and make a fair judgement as if they were so. I am challenging them.

    A fair and just process is considering post AND user group. You say how mature they think out of the box, what does this mean? Do they not act old enough for you? Basically, the quoted paragraph is about as close to a insult as you can possibly get.
    From what I've seen, Matt hasnt made 1 unfair judgement. Yet you think that this isnt the case because of age? You talk about a fair and just process NOT considering post, yet your quick to judge there maturity by mere age? That my friend, is contradictions to the mere max/
    ~Yee~
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