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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 18 2007, 05:58 PM (321 Views) | |
| Nik | Jun 18 2007, 05:58 PM Post #1 |
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Good midnight everyone, I am going to post this here since the actual topic was locked. If this was posted wrongly, I would ask you for moving it to the right section instead of deleting the topic or impose any other kind of sanctions instead of facing the debate. At first some things concerning the team-stack incrimination: It is necessary for a team to train its teamplay in order to improve it, and thus it is of course necessary to be in the same team. Besides, whether you want to call it winning team joining or not, it was perpetrated by other players, too, for example Lightguard who always wanted to be in my team because he simply had no chance against me, even if we both were the only ones on the server, check logs or whatever. Or M4H and M4Hj players that played in the same team with 7 players against us 4 DeGa players with 3 bots. I would suggest you stick to this "rule" that is not even listed in the Server Rules as far as I know before you start to moan at others yourself. And moreover, to my defence, I have to say that the server does not really make it easier for me to even the teams when I decide to play on it because the server often kicks bots from the wrong team, what means in specific that you can only join the team with players and not the bots-only team. If one had done so anyway, he or she would have changed by auto-team-balance to the other team nevertheless. Now some things concerning the other story: Noone of us knew the rules, otherwise we would not have contravened them. I personally searched for this forums but did not find them. And instead of what they actually did (awper and ludi) they could have evened the teams or cleared the matters up, depending on what incrimination you are refering to. So far, Nik. |
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| MKBIndustries | Jun 18 2007, 07:20 PM Post #2 |
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For starters http://z6.invisionfree.com/Mercenaries_4_H...topic=277&st=0& look at AWPers post. Ok we have 7 vs 6 your team has the 7. I have seen you guys do this many times myself. Though when I am in the server I dont give a crap cause your always on the other team but I know you all always join the same team. In fact your clan members will sit in spec untill they can get on your team. Your telling me everytime you guys have joined the server except once you were all forced to the same team? I have played with a bunch of you many differnt times. Only one time did I see one of your clan mates not with you. Now I am not sure what your trying to get here but look at how many rules you guys broke. You were already warned on estate by me before to check the server rules. This was for a differnt rule you were breaking. As for stacking not being in the rules your correct you got me. Guess I cant take away 30% of your xp for that. Though since we are going by that lets see what the punishment is for the crimes listed which you 3 did commit. 1) No glitching or exploiting (warning-banning for this offence). This includes chamelion vs bots. 4) One nade per round unless you respawn or buy gloves (warning-banning for this offence). 11) No farming (xp wipe-banning). 1) Now you could argue that you wernt glitching but you were. FF isnt on so you took it upon yourself to wound yourself and let other take advantage of a glitch in the system. 4) Well you sure broke this rule which by doing so also breaks rule number 1 so you have 3 rules broken already. If you try to buy a second nade from the buy menu it wont let you. So you did one of the way to bypass this. 11) Wow you sure did farm. Lets see what the punishments call for... 1) (warning-banning for this offence) Ok so we will give you a warning 1) (warning-banning for this offence) Guess you get two warnings... 4) (warning-banning for this offence) Damn you are lucky 3 warnings. 11) (xp wipe-banning) Ouch so you want this easy on you all 3 of you take a full xp whipe from all of our servers. Now I was very easy on you three. Though you want to push a mistake I made so I will push mine. Either take the added 30% for stacking or we go with the xp whipe or banning you can pick any of the 3 you want. If you pick the first one your still getting the 20% for the farming. |
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| MKBIndustries | Jun 18 2007, 07:29 PM Post #3 |
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So you know this topic is open to debait. Though seeing the rules have been "quoted" I dont think we have muh room to move. I do know what you mean about the bots at times. Though even at map change you guys all end up on the same team map after map odd how it works out so well for your clan yet never does with mine... All xp taken will be noted on the locked topic if your 2 friends want to plead there case they can on this topic or start a new thread for themselfs in this section. All xp taken can be given back if my ruling overturned. Also as for trying to find the forums you see them everytime you join the server. Also as for Lightguard if you have proff please post it. Otherwise no demo no proof. Unless you want me to also belive anything anyone says about you.. |
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| LuDiCrOuS^^ | Jun 19 2007, 01:43 AM Post #4 |
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When the teams r me and awper against 4 or 3 of u guys who stay in spawn for first min. to throw nades at eachother and then rush out all 3 or 4 together. mine and awpers efford on the other team wont really do the teams to be even. u heal eacheother and have vengance so u'll come back again. when i came into the server in dust2 yesterday I was lvl 14almost 15. but all of u guys were higher.. u were as i remember above 18. |
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| Nik | Jun 19 2007, 04:28 AM Post #5 |
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Concerning this, see the very first thing I said about it. And honestly it is a curse. I played against all other 3 players of the team (yes, there are 4 players at all and not 3 that commited those "crimes"), it was 7on7. I still won many rounds until some of them could not bear this anymore and came to my team. I really do not know why people mind losing anyway, I mean so Awper and Ludi just did, too. Instead of playing and clearing up the matters they recorded demos and made screenshots. I did not care, too, that the stats were like 22 - 0 when you played with 7 players against us 4. I did not moan at people to even the teams. But Awper and Ludi were in the other team, the winning team this time, and this time did not mind that the teams were uneven. Think whatever you want about this, I mean, who knows, and I do not care. Well, maybe it was because I still had the best stats on server, but whatever, if you want to have even teams install PTB or whatever it was called. And besides, just as I thought, that is no rule at all.
See above. But I'll repeat this again: Do not tell me some of you guys do not do it. For example I can not remember a game where I played with you in the same team. But a couple of games, where we lost and you were on the server, too.
Only a small debate. Like I said, I searched for this forum to check the rules. Try to find it with Google yourself.
We were 4. And well, I was just wondering why Ludi was posting so many screenshots how unfair the teams were. Thought we broke some rule there, since he classified that as a rule break in the topic's title.
Did not know this is a bug. I mean jumping from something high or missthrow a granade is quite commonly spread in CS, especially among noobs. I do not know whether you know it, but we killed at least 20 enemies with those granades on estate. But well, since this was the first time we did that (Ludi and Awper should know because they played a lot against us before), they could have easily cleared the matters up. Instead we got a warning-banning without a reason, what is not the actual sense of it, is it?
I count 2 so far, but okay. If you try to buy a second nade from the buy menu it will let you, just check it out. I tried that after some M4Hj guy threw out of the window (on estate) two napalm granades. You should recheck server settings. Because you would not need this rule if the server was set up correctly there. So I think we did not break rule 1 there.
I guess you mean experience-farming here, when I first read it I thought about bot-farming. Well, already said that: Since this was the first time and we did not know it, they could have told us to stop. Easy as that. We needed to wait until you came online to know, what was going on.
We do personally know each other and want to play in the same team sometimes. Moreover this is not fixed in a rule anyway. And besides that, like I already said, your team did that, too.
If you wait for ten seconds, yes, I know now, but did not before. But I rather start to play immediately instead of staring at a white field.
Well, I said most of the stuff I could tell you now already above. I was the only one of those four at all who was above 18. Plus only two of us had "vengeance", so did you both, if I remember correctly. Moreover Awper was came back more than one time sometimes. So far. |
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| MKBIndustries | Jun 19 2007, 05:05 AM Post #6 |
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If other people do it get a demo. If it takes 10 seconds to load on your screan that isnt my fault. It says the forums in game every few min also. You could always try asking one of our members too. I change teams often. You must be mistaken unless it was after I came in and saw a stacked team. Then I dont try to fix this. I let the people who stacked see what its like. So your admitting your team mates were on the other team and switch cause they couldnt stand dieing which is stacking. As for my clan doing this I have punished my own clan members for doing this when I see it. If you have proff then post it. Though now your breaking forums rules. No demo no ss = no proof. So please stop trying to pass the buck to my clan mates and others in the server. Do people break rules I am sure. Do I punish when I see it yes. As for AWPer being able to say something he didnt know what I wanted to do about this. Your our first farmers. So him not saying anything saved your from me. Or from him going by what I have posted. This is about you, lets keep it that way. If your friends want to defend themself they should come post defend yourself and lets get this over with. |
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| Nik | Jun 19 2007, 05:45 AM Post #7 |
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Nor its mine.
Yes, I do. I hope you also punished yourself then, since...
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| MKBIndustries | Jun 19 2007, 05:55 AM Post #8 |
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If I join CT and you stack T and then people comming in go CT cause they all know you guys stack how is this me stacking? So me changing teams to make the teams fair is stacking? Not sure where your saying I am stacking. I warned you about keeping this about you and not trying to blame others with no proof. As for moving your topic you need to read either post in the right section or dont post at all. You now have a 48 hours forum ban and still loose your xp. Yes itis your fault it takes 10 seconds to load you picked this server not one in Europe rember? You even made it clear to me you live no where near here. So seeing you picked it and no one forced you to play here learn the rules or go away forever!!!! Now seeing you cant follow forum rules or server rules this case is closed. As for me slaying people with out a demo any admin can. As for me banning without a demo I dont need a damn demo this is my server. I review all demos and have final say over any admin. Why post something for me to say ok I was right? |
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