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Why are we not given the CHOICE?; p u k LUG
Topic Started: Feb 7 2006, 02:35 AM (1,211 Views)
bloodwork
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yes, very unfair. and very one-sided.
1st the players/consumers is part of the community, not just a part but we are the community they have created yet they ignore our grieviances, etc. maybe not ignore but much more than that. looks like LUG have broken a trade and commerce policies.

now everyone here will be aware of these consumer policies.

do we have to start a new thread to have an indepth discussion on this RA and Policies?


@stealth pra sa akin ba yung nka () sa post mo?
curious lang. taka naman ako.
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Lawi
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laki kaya ng gastos pag u sue them...

there are many good lawyers out there who can defed them....

they have the money to spend for that...

if u sue them, its like the lottery... theres no sure win...
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I'll refer this to some the lawyers and law students in our law school. It's time to get serious about this matter. All we've been doing so far is rant about it. If it's legal action they want, then legal action it is.

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nope. Side comment lang yun
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we'll at least we know now that somebody is serious in pursuing a case for everybody.

@lawi money should not be a problem, wala pa naman tayong case eh. mahaba pang usapan toh. kung mag sue naman tau, d naman tau haharap na walang kalaban laban. and for the money, i think we will not use private lawyers, but report them to the authorities and present our case. maybe DTI or the agency who are authorized to deal with cases like the. and they will have to study these also.
at hindi tau maghahabol ng danyos kung saka-sakali. we'll fight for competent, better, transparent and fair services.

@stealth, ayan naman pala eh. /no1
i'll do my homework too, maybe ask some experts in our school for this one.

@to everyone who read this:
we've been playing this game for a long long time now. let's get into to serious business here (not that to be serious in RO but serious vs LUGs incompetent and unfair sevices). if we want to make things right for ourselves and everybody, let's do it now. i think this is the only way that LUG will hear our voices.
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we can say na...

1. We play at home
2. We checked for any keyloggers
3. We are careful in what we download
4. We are the only ones whom know our account details..... and so on...

sure we do a LOT of things to protect our account...

pero sabi nga ng LUG:
"dont give out your username, password. items or any account details to vanguards, they will never ask for them, they dont need your items nor accnt deatils"

why wont they be asking for your account details?

of course... aside from you...

their the ONLY one who knows.... /e5
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yeah, i think that will be the most basic arguement and most probably the foundation in presenting/formulating our case on this.

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Formulate a case? Ang hirap... tlgang sobrang mahirap...]

again, you need a lot of time and money on that...
There are few who are willing to spend...
plus the fact that whatever we have up on our sleeve,
they will always find some way to counter it.

And they have more money to finance better lawyers...

You are living in a corrupt country bloodwork...
what makes you think they can't simply settle it on some price
with these goverment related agencies...? *sigh*

Mind you in the Philippines... there is a price for everything.. /swt

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^ erm, I'm sure if all the players concerned take this seriously, only one case needs to be filed and we can all help make it work out. I know some players have the financial capabilities and they can help out.

And since when should consumers(us) have to fear the service provider(lug)? SO what if they have money? They got it from us. They should fear us because we are protected by all these laws.. They're just getting away with this because this is the Philippines, not America where people can effectively exercise their rights.

I can't be part of this though, if there will be a formal case against lug. Best I can do is contribute to "The Fund"
/heh
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@ate lawi
Nobody said that it will be easy.

BUT you're thinking negatively, wala pa nga eh. i am pointing out, HINDI TAYO GAGASTO, d2 lang tayo sa boards mag didiscuss ng mga ideas, arguements, facts, etc about the case. i am not saying we push on without knowing anything. if you think about time? How many posts have you got in your name right now?
isn't that enough for a very long discussion? this is still a discussion, that's why im always saying FORMULATE/BUILD a case. and as for the money, IT WILL NOT BE A PROBLEM, we will NOT SPEND any gold on this one. Just consilidate the idea of everybody. Iilan pa nga lang tau d2 sa thread na to eh, ganyan na agad iniisip natin.

And i do know what is philippine system, not everything but i got the idea.

and you're talking about countering? COUNTER everything they want, we still have our own right to express and demand for their competence, fairness, etc.

MAHABA pa yung usapan kung meron man interested.

and i can see you're hitting the word CASE? it's not like filing a case on court and we need lawyers or something like that. The CASE is the case of everybody here affected by the unfair services.

and you're also talking about corruption, e2 lalabas pagkatibak ko. pero no need to elaborate. "** palaban, Makabayan!" :peace:

Here's the picture:

WE formulate - we discuss, argue, etc, ANY idea that goes with the topic.
WE formulate
WE formulate
WE formulate
WE formulate
then,...
WE build - organize the result of our formulation and compile all of it to become the general idea of the mob (all of us).

As i am saying, we only formulate. after formulating? after building?

Then, WE ALL talk about what WE will do about it. Ayt?

@ate lawi: nde ito flame pra sau ha, friends tau at lam mo yun. this is not only for you but for everybody. bka ma warn na naman ako?

nagulat lang ako sa post mo baket ganun? dapat you give hope not give up already. wala pa nga taung pinaglalaban eh. hindi pa natin alam kung ano yun.

wahahaha... haba ng post ko....
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All i was saying is that i think people are FED UP just talking about this. I know I am. This is not the only thread in this forum about the same topic. Other threads about this are in other forums, also. You won't be doing anything that hasn't already been done if you just talk. Talk is easy. Anyone can talk. Everyone is talking.

Formulate, you say? If you're serious, I suggest doing this by something more formal than a bulletin board. Because when you start filing your case, that's when you go about the real fact finding and look for all the evidence that would help the case. 90% of what you will get in a public bulletin board would be crap, im telling you- consisting of hearsay, unfounded accusations, lies etc.

And be real. It won't do romanticising things. Of course if you go sue LUG, you will spend money.
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laki ng problma ng mga 2, d mag quit, ung total 100% quit. ung iba na inaasekaso nyo, dun sa palagay ko matatahimik na kayo d nyo na maalala ung mga scamer hacker LUG na baboy. tyak pag nag quit kayo mag kakaroon kayo ng peace of mind.
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I think it would be cheaper to start all over again. Specially for us who are not from Metro manila. ;)

My own opinion only. Service of LUG is quite frustrating though. :angry2: If not only for the love of the game and my friends in-game, there is really no reason to stay. :o

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@ ma'am crizzle
yes, ma'am i know that. im not thinking about filing a case yet. if that is what it will be decided by everybody in the future. well. we will have a stronger case if everybody joins which is a class suit, IF we decide to file a case.

yes, this is a public board but, everybody in these community has a part. Crap you mean? I will not consider anybody's idea as crap, as long as it is a valid arguement on this topic.

and, i do not believe that the only thing we can do is SUE LUG. yes, maybe that is the number one. but there are still many ways, we haven't fathomed yet, like a report to DTI or somthing like that. that's why i'm talking about the TALK because it is the way we share ideas. not criticize one's ideas.

@ma'am my post after you ^ should have been after ate Lawi's post. /heh

la lang medyo defensive, ayaw ko ma warn. !T_T
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Feb 11 2006, 10:57 PM
Formulate a case? Ang hirap... tlgang sobrang mahirap...]

again, you need a lot of time and money on that...
There are few who are willing to spend...
plus the fact that whatever we have up on our sleeve,
they will always find some way to counter it.

And they have more money to finance better lawyers...

You are living in a corrupt country bloodwork...
what makes you think they can't simply settle it on some price
with these goverment related agencies...? *sigh*

Mind you in the Philippines... there is a price for everything.. /swt

Life's unfair... -_______-

It's better to try then let those money monsters continue their dirty business
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