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50+ dex is good for a battlesmith??; is this true???
Topic Started: Aug 20 2005, 11:42 AM (1,005 Views)
anikka
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Aug 21 2005, 10:41 PM
i have something to share with the dex issue, i think the difference between 50 or 38+12 dex and 60 or 48+12 dex is minimal.. na-prove ko na to.. nag 1on1 kame ng frend ko, same build kame, the difference is 50 dex ako at 60 dex siya (i sacrificed the stats for a built-in SR) the defense is, lets just say lamang siya ng def pero not more than 5DEF.. out of 6 to 8 fights i won 1 more than him.. mga 4 or 5.. ang HP nmen is the same (with the same vit) and preho ren kame ng flee and ASPD.. and FYI, preho kame nka-mock.. un lang po.. ^^ e2 ay nung buhay pa ang BS ko..

OT: if u had the same vit, same aspd and flee, and more or less the same def, san kau nagkatalo? u have higher str?
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i have no idea po.. i used a +102bloody boned chain and he used a +9 2 bloody boned chain but the numbers were higher for him (this being the product of my sucky equips) we tried it with buffs and without, and i won more times (not bragging, twas an experimnet).. same kame 120 str w/ buffs.. and we played in different shops, pero i tink dat was'nt a factor, kce la nman lag nuon.. and nahalat ko na preho ren kame ng miss rate.. it was no lucky draw.. ewan lang po.. naguluhan ren siya eh..

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maybe that 5 DEF difference was pure DEF, meaning you were losing out 5% from an opposed 3.33%.
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30 lang nalagay ko sa dex. nakalimutan ko kung ilan yung total with the + and baps. (d ko ma check kc wala ako load) i put a little too much on vit! !T_T asa nalang aku sa aspd ko na 180. !T_T
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180 aspd is already fast... /no1

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with berserk na yun. hehe. :D kaw mon? anu yung iniba mo sa build ng 2nd BS mo?
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actually the question should be answered base on the true purpose of your BS.
40-45 dex (base in my experiment) is fair enough for basic pvp/pvm. dont forget that you have the skill hammerfall, and mammonite is served best if your foe is stunned (you can mammo him twice or trice while he cant attack you at all) though
38+12 dex is the standard for PvP and PvM type. You will not have a hard time hitting those agi knights and sins (though usually, sins evolved now, they tend to put more stat points on vit now to lessen the probability to be stunned by HF).

MVP builit-wise, still, an overall DEX 50 is fair enough for most boss, but DEX 60 is better IMO esp if your dealling against bapho and dopple. a bless from your priest will be a great help to make dat 50 dex to 60, yet remember that he cant buff you forever 24/7.

among the stats, dex is one of the supposedly fixed stat for BS at 50, but unlike STR (which you shoud have at least 100), the dex-50 rule should not be taken all the time, it can be slightly higher or lower base on your actual purpose of ur BS. like as discussed earlier, dex can affect atckspd and so as the minimum dmg, and decreasing/increasing your dex from 50 can give you from additional/lesser stat points for other stats like VIT, AGI or STR (if ever you fell short out of computation). its always your call. mostly ksi ang nangyayari, nagiging cut-and-paste cookie build ang build ng Battle BS like most wizards and hunters, where the truth is BS stats is very versatile just like of dat of Sins and Hybrid Knights.

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waaaaaaa? na HD BS mo? or nabenta mo na?
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waaaaa. . . :anxious: warmonger! . . may kapit kay holgrehnn!! :anxious: wahahah. . yeah, basta what im saying is the more dex u put into your build, the higher the probability of hitting hi-flee builds. . kasi, if you think bout it, if u had a high dex, u wudnt be using the hammer fall that often, except for wizzies nalang. . think of it that way. . pag nag HF ka kasi, may delay pa sa atak mo ng mammo. .mdjo mtagal tgal rin . . significantly noticeable. . pero if u had a higher dex, no need to HF ka sa 1 on 1 and tataas pa atk spd mo dvahh. . eheheh...
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i wish.. pero ako nag delete.. d ko lam wat rison.. tinopak lang ako.. and wit mediocre equips.. mtgal ng sold equips ko e.. pm moko bro.. ung old-skul sin ko.. heheh.. /no1 kis

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hahah, kala ko quit kna?

SORRY OT..

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hmm para sakin mga 50 dex(base ah) or more para rin sa aspd mo hehhe..kasi ung ibang BS agi sila... so mahirap patamaan...dpat wag lagi asa sa HF :lol:

pag 1n1 hirap dn kasi gumamit ng HF panu kung my vit din ung agi'ng iyon?tpos d xa msyado na sstun tpos na ikaw HF ng HF? edi ung nag HHF kana nababawasan kana nya,...then ikaw wla ka parin nabawas.. tpos pag na patay nung agi'ng iyon ung BS na wlang gnawa kung hnd nag HF nlng ng HF.. na namatay kaka HF, den bigla nila ssbihin..aba ang dami ng HP mO ah.. d nila napansin mas madami pa na HF nila kesa sa mi namo nila.. haay gulo ko tlaga mag explain... <_< <_<


basta 50 above base dex is GOOD...
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OT: hala... may bagong bs si adios... /heh /heh /heh mukhang alam ko na yung concept hihihihihi

dex adds aspd and adds hit rate
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Bat ang BS ko.. 20 lng ang dex pero tumatama nman sa mga iba char. pag siege tym..

depende na un sa gusto mo mging build ng BS mo..

gusto mo, i calcu mo sa iRO ung char na ga2win u pra maaus ang pagka2gwa..dba.


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hahaha. . . i cudnt have thought of an idea for the new bs if d ako tinulungan ni master mon :worthy: very unselfish yan si fafs mon. . always willing to share what he knows. . hehehe :D idols :D hmm fafs mon . . i just took part of what you told me and mixed some of my own. . i hope inde intuil tong bago . . heheh. . . cgeh ipapakita ko pag ilaw na :D and since x5 ngyn, its gna be really soon hahaha :P see yah! :rokon: . . idol fafs mon :worthy:
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maybe the nxt time we meet... ill be kissing the floor hehehe goodluck sa pag papalvl!
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:( nyehhhh master mon, dont assume! hahah :D alam ko u have some tricks up your sleeve din! hahah :lol: ikaw pa??!! :anxious: eh kaw idols ko :anxious: baka pagkita natin, mag dc nalang ako para d mapahiya wahahah :anxious:
yeah thanks! happy leveling to you too!
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